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megamike ◴[] No.45862207[source]
“the First Amendment is a cheap thing if all it provides is the assurance that one may say what a current majority is willing to hear.” Charles Rembar
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1. getcthbf67 ◴[] No.45862262[source]
As a contrararianI'm silenced a lot. How do you suggest alignment can happen if more persuasive dissenting voices are allowed to be heard?
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2. michael_michael ◴[] No.45862266[source]
Silenced by whom?
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3. theendisney ◴[] No.45862304[source]
Even the smallest authority may want to force others back in line.
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4. ceejayoz ◴[] No.45862337{3}[source]
“Your ideas suck and you should stop espousing them” is free speech too.
5. epistasis ◴[] No.45862342[source]
Contrarian on taxes, spending, organizational issues, democracy versus monarchy?

Or it, you know, those contrarian views? You know the ones.

(Personally, I'm a contrarian about the presence of fire in crowded theaters, and boy have I been silenced)

6. fnordpiglet ◴[] No.45862489[source]
Why is alignment necessary? In our system compromise is the typical alignment sought where no single view dominates the decisions or direction. With enforced alignment no compromise is more than not necessary it’s not possible. That’s the dysfunction of the present because there’s a perception that holding office entails enforcing alignment, and opposing voices not only need not be heard but are forcefully silenced. However the system we have in the US doesn’t allow for that, and explicably, it’s even more dysfunctional than normal. Sooner or later they have to stop and compromise, over throw the system, or be removed. That’s precisely how it’s designed to work.

So, you shouldn’t be silenced, your opinions should be heard, and to the extent they’re reasonable, they should be considered proportional to your ability to influence. The more to which this is prevented or ignored the more unstable the system is.

7. mpalmer ◴[] No.45862517[source]
What exactly do you think you deserve that you're not getting?