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bradly ◴[] No.45858587[source]
> We should have two rankings: one representing trust and real human use, and another derived from raw DNS volume.

Isn't identifying real humans an unsolved problem? I'm not sure efforts to hide the truth that these domain are actually the most requested domains does anyone any favors. Is there something using these rankings as an authoritative list or are they just vanity metrics similar to the Alexa Top Site rankings of yore? If they are authoritative, then Cloudflare defining "trusted" is going to be problematic as I would expect them to hide that logic to avoid gaming.

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iamkonstantin ◴[] No.45858640[source]
> Isn't identifying real humans an unsolved problem?

I'm not sure this was ever a problem to begin with. The obsession with "confirm you are human" has created a lot of "bureaucracy" on technical level without actually protecting websites from unauthorised use. Why not actually bite the bullet and allow automations to interact with web resources instead of bothering humans to solve puzzles 10 times per day?

> Cloudflare defining "trusted"

They would love to monetise the opportunity, no doubt

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nickff ◴[] No.45858699[source]
>"Why not actually bite the bullet and allow automations to interact with web resources instead of bothering humans to solve puzzles 10 times per day?"

This is a great idea if you've developed your 'full-stack', but if you're interfacing with others, it often doesn't work well. For example, if you use an external payment processor, and allow bots to constantly test stolen credit card data, you will eventually get booted from the service.

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1. isodev ◴[] No.45858797[source]
I think the comment means we have these “institutional” problems that we’re constantly protecting with tricks like captchas instead of actually addressing why a payment processor would have a problem with that or be unable to handle it in their own way.