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A Confederacy of Toddlers

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23 points rbanffy | 1 comments | 04 Nov 25 08:05 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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mrkeen ◴[04 Nov 25 10:03 UTC] No.45809223[source]▶
Remember in 2015 when there was no chance of Trump winning, then he did, and everyone collectively realised no-one had actually talked (listened) to any of the voters that put him in power?

Well, after win #2 (this time with the popular vote) here we are again:

> Friedrich Nietzsche created a concept that can help us understand this political moment. He imported a word from French to describe a kind of deep-seated anger that goes beyond transitory gripes: ressentiment, a feeling that comes from a combination of insecurity, an amorphous envy, and a generalized sense of resentment.

The majority is such a bizarre outlier that you need 19th century German philosophy to really understand what's going on.

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RickJWagner ◴[04 Nov 25 12:54 UTC] No.45810448[source]▶
You’re on to something there.

In 2016, Trump first had to defeat the Republican establishment. Then he won the election.

In 2020, he nearly won again. In 2024, he won the election again.

He is like no politician before him. He is boorish, childish, uncouth, and boastful.

But it’s the fact that he opposes the sneering, snotty media/political establishment that gets him votes. People are tired of lies being constantly pushed upon them by condescending pretty people. Another snarky article from The Atlantic only feeds the monster.

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IAmBroom ◴[04 Nov 25 13:54 UTC] No.45811042[source]▶
> People are tired of lies being constantly pushed upon them by condescending pretty people.

Please describe these supposed lies.

> Another snarky article from The Atlantic only feeds the monster.

Yep, The Atlantic is a daily must-read for the MAGA cult. Then they watch The Daily Show.

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mrkeen ◴[04 Nov 25 16:42 UTC] No.45812976{3}[source]▶
If you're having trouble 'seeing from the other side', just substitute "toddler" for "communist", and "poisoned for years by memes and disinformation" with "infected by the woke mind virus".

If I characterised your voting behaviour being due to "Trump derangement syndrome", would that be a "lie"?

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1. happytoexplain ◴[04 Nov 25 16:51 UTC] No.45813109{4}[source]▶
That relies on the common fallacy that both sides of any given political binary are "the same" by default - i.e. that if you believe anything about Republicans, and you don't believe the same thing about Democrats, or vice versa, that you are a hypocrite almost automatically. But of course you need to state some kind of opinion or argument that X is the same as Y - it's not true by default.

If a Democrat (or Republican) did the things Trump does, I would expect and understand for people to accuse that Democrat (or Republican) of acting like a toddler, or whatever. That doesn't mean you should or that it's a good thing, but it's understandable and not hypocritical.