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You can't refuse to be scanned by ICE's facial recognition app, DHS document say

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574 points nh43215rgb | 3 comments | 01 Nov 25 08:58 UTC | HN request time: 0.61s | source
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baubino ◴[01 Nov 25 11:13 UTC] No.45780791[source]▶
>>> Photos captured by Mobile Fortify will be stored for 15 years, regardless of immigration or citizenship status, the document says.

The headline plus this quote reveals the real intentions — to create a comprehensive dataset that includes biometric data and can be used however the government wishes, regardless of one’s citizenship. I have no doubt that this data will also be sold to other entities.

I remember reading years ago about how facial recognition was particularly bad at correctly identifying people with darker skin and was generally not great as the sole method of identification. The possibility of a mistaken identity being captured by this app would have life-altering implications with essentially no recourse. This is really disturbing.

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1. Muromec ◴[01 Nov 25 13:49 UTC] No.45781625[source]▶
>>>> Photos captured by Mobile Fortify will be stored for 15 years, regardless of immigration or citizenship status, the document says.

That's what happens when you don't have mandatory id system and want to enforce immigration policy -- government just does whatever bullshit sticks and there is no carefully crafted set of safeguards and procedural rules to slap it for doing too much.

> remember reading years ago about how facial recognition was particularly bad at correctly identifying people with darker skin

I would imagine that for current administration it's not a bug, but a feature.

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2. kbrisso ◴[01 Nov 25 17:09 UTC] No.45783340[source]▶
Who needs mandatory id systems? State ID's and passports work just fine. What if I don't want an ID?
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3. cycomanic ◴[01 Nov 25 19:53 UTC] No.45784763[source]▶
I think the answer is in the article, you get a mobile app that acts as a defacto national ID with the officers using the app explicitly being allowed to ignore any other ID documents.