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ICE and the Smartphone Panopticon

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217 points fortran77 | 2 comments | 31 Oct 25 01:13 UTC | HN request time: 0.04s | source
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SurceBeats ◴[31 Oct 25 02:42 UTC] No.45767762[source]▶
The ICEBlock removal is absurd when you consider Waze has been warning drivers about police locations for... Years? The only difference is which government agency is being monitored. This sets a dangerous precedent for selective enforcement of ToS really
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charcircuit ◴[31 Oct 25 04:17 UTC] No.45768379[source]▶
I think they are different in that:

1. People are not harassing traffic enforcement, like they are harassing immigration enforcement.

2. Waze's information incentivizes people to follow traffic laws more deligently than they would which results in safer driving conditions for other people driving. ICEBlock did not have the benefit of making people follow immigration law better, or turn themselves in faster.

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1. throwawayqqq11 ◴[31 Oct 25 06:47 UTC] No.45769049[source]▶
Avoiding traffic controls is no solution to reckless driving. Like surveilance cameras, they only move the crime elsewhere.

What you need is a gapless panopticon so that every suspect feels like being at the verge of getting caught, to enforce eg. traffic laws.

ICE does not target criminal behavior though. They literally disappear people based on appearance and any criminal record. Such a panopticon is an entirely different beast.

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2. Yeul ◴[31 Oct 25 11:48 UTC] No.45770982[source]▶
It really is that bad. They put illegal immigrants on military transport planes to South Sudan. And how are those poor people supposed to get back home?