US axes website for reporting human rights abuses by US-armed foreign forces

> When did the US government ever care about human rights?

July 4 1776

Which is why all of this recent mess is interesting because the only thing that’s different in terms of action now is that they are doing all the dirt in public rather in private

Even total deportation numbers are lower (given administration length) than every previous administration as reported by Jacobin in the latest issue - yall remember Elian Gonzalez?

Educate me.

How cruel was the treatment from the British truly? My understanding was things like "no taxation without representation" was unrealistic due to the sheer distance and amount of time required to travel between the US and the UK. We're talking somewhere around 2-4 months one way. To send a rep back and forth with a message like:

US sends rep -> Uk and rep interact -> rep goes back to US with UK decision -> the US give their answer and the rep goes back to UK -> then rep goes back to the US with the UK's decision.

Such an interaction could take well over a year.

I also thought the US was the lowest taxed colony under British control? Not to mention it's not like the British didn't provide military protection to the colonies as well.

I am not saying the revolution was purely unjustified, but I am not really aware of how bad things truly were. My history classes kind of glossed over that part.

> Slaves were freed and the civil rights act wasn't passed for almost 100 years after the war.

That's progress though, even if its progress on something that never should have existed to begin with, and the progress is far too slow.

And yes, our progress has been far too slow and way too uneven, but for the first 40 years of my life I felt like we were still progressing (yes -- too slow, and too unevenly).

But in the most recent ~decade of my life I feel like we've switched from too-slow progress to regression.

Shitty progress isn't enough, but its better than no progress (or, much worse, regression).

Fwiw I believe the comment you are replying to was being sarcastic. Thus, you don't need educating. You're making their point.

At that point “human” really only meant the white man who owns property though eh?

This is a dangerous fallacy - "it has always been bad, so it can't get worse".

The United States' way of government was revolutionary for its time, based on the cutting edge of human philosophy in many ways. The Bills of (negative) Rights in particular.

It is a shame that it is being destroyed at lightspeed the last year, and worse that many don't seem to care.

The US has had many opportunities to care a lot less!

Just look at what Russia is up to these days.

We didn't want to be ruled by wankers!

Progress sure but Lincoln didn't free the slaves in the Northern states.

He only freed the slaves in the South with the emancipation proclamation [1]. The 13th amendment wasn't until 2 years later. Lincoln did it as an economic weapon against the south as well as a military recruitment tool; not out of the goodness of his heart.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emancipation_Proclamation

Baby steps

I'm sorry that didn't work out for you.

The colonial grievances that led to war are explicitly stated in the Declaration of Independence.

It can be assumed that the British occupation forces were just as brutal as any other occupying military force in history. The only restraint in those situations is morals and a boss that was across an ocean.

Do you mind helping my understand how you interpreted my comment in that manner? Such a sentiment was never my intention, and I would like to know how I could have worded my comment better to avoid confusion.

I was merely try to express that things were bad and some progress has been made, however, that does not mean that things cannot get bad again. Both progress and regress are rarely a straight line.