←back to thread

160 points xbmcuser | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0.206s | source
Show context
AnonC ◴[] No.45678061[source]
I skimmed through the article. It talks a lot about sodium ion batteries and how major vehicle and transportation companies are getting into making and using these batteries. It also talks about the cost aspect, with sodium ion being cheaper than lithium iron phosphate (LFP) batteries.

However, there is no mention of this technology in consumer devices and gadgets like laptops, smartphones and tablets. I get that the site is about clean technology as a replacement for the currently more polluting technology. But I’m interested to see when these sodium ion batteries will appear in phones and laptops and what difference they may make to the cost, price, weight, performance, safety, longevity, etc.

replies(5): >>45678134 #>>45678196 #>>45678329 #>>45678333 #>>45682297 #
1. specialist ◴[] No.45682297[source]
Opportunity is for (stationary) appliances, rather than devices.

For instance startup Channing Street Copper's battery powered induction stove. Their battery is large enough to also power your refrigerator for 3 days (IIRC).

In effect, a combination Powerwall and stove. Without requiring a panel upgrade. Apartment dwellers can cost effectively electrify All The Things. It greatly improves resiliency. Unlocks distributed grid power generation and storage (IIRC something like "VPP" for "virtual power plant").

"Induction stoves with batteries built in, and why they matter" [2022]

https://www.volts.wtf/p/induction-stoves-with-batteries-buil...