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michaelmauderer ◴[] No.45668112[source]
The problem here is not the law, but malicious compliance by websites that don't want to give up tracking.

"Spend Five Minutes in a Menu of Legalese" is not the intended alternative to "Accept All". "Decline All" is! And this is starting to be enforced through the courts, so you're increasingly seeing the "Decline All" option right away. As it should be. https://www.techspot.com/news/108043-german-court-takes-stan...

Of course, also respecting a Do-Not-Track header and avoiding the cookie banner entirely while not tracking the user, would be even better.

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crazygringo ◴[] No.45668318[source]
No, the problem is 100% the law, because it was written in a way that allows this type of malicious compliance.

Laws need to be written well to achieve good outcomes. If the law allows for malicious compliance, it is a badly written law.

The sites are just trying to maximize profit, as anyone could predict. So write better laws.

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GTP ◴[] No.45670704[source]
The GDPR clearly states that denying consent has to be as easy as giving it.
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loeg ◴[] No.45670990[source]
The problem is the pop up banner. Having a big "deny" button does not solve the GDPR cookie banner problem.
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vanviegen ◴[] No.45671595[source]
I think that does eventually solve it. If clicking "deny" is as easy as clicking "accept", people will mostly just do the former.

As that will erode most worth derived from tracking, sensible operators will decide to stop annoying users and just ditch the tracking altogether. Or so I hope. I wouldn't know, as Brave does a pretty good job of hiding cookie banners in the mean-time.

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mrguyorama ◴[] No.45672896[source]
>If clicking "deny" is as easy as clicking "accept", people will mostly just do the former.

Unfortunately, I don't actually think people realize the law is on their side here. My girlfriend never clicked "Reject All" until I told her to because she thought something wouldn't work if she did that!

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1. speleding ◴[] No.45680263[source]
Your girlfriend was somewhat right though: if you click "Reject all" they cannot show you targeted ads, and will show you generic ads instead. That's why I always accept the tracking cookies, for me the price of the privacy incursion is worth seeing more relevant ads.