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andy_ppp ◴[] No.45676328[source]
I would be quite worried about advances in quantum computers if I had any Bitcoin after watching this DEFCON talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkVYJx1iLNs
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vayup ◴[] No.45676591[source]
Quantum is a known threat. There is enough time to fix it. Folks are working on the fixes.

Cryptocurrencies would be the last thing I worry about w.r.t Quantum crypto attacks. Everything would be broken. Think banks, brokerage accounts, email, text messages - everything.

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acdha ◴[] No.45676899[source]
I think that’s backwards: most of the stuff you mentioned is using TLS and can switch to post-quantum algorithms with a config change, and do so incrementally with no user-visible impact - e.g. right now I’m already using PQC for many sites and about half of the traffic Cloudflare sees is using PQC:

https://radar.cloudflare.com/adoption-and-usage

In contrast, cryptocurrencies have to upgrade the entire network all at once or it’s effectively a painful fork. That effort appears to just be getting talked about now, without even starting to discuss timing:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1895

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1. __MatrixMan__ ◴[] No.45677624[source]
I can't remember which chain it was but I'm sure I've seen stats on in-progress rollouts of protocol changes where the network took something like weeks or months to all get upgraded to the new version. You can design for tolerating both for a time.