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JMAP for Calendars, Contacts and Files Now in Stalwart

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316 points StalwartLabs | 1 comments | 22 Oct 25 17:26 UTC | HN request time: 0.205s | source
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sylens ◴[22 Oct 25 19:44 UTC] No.45674189[source]▶
We need better client support for JMAP. Apple Mail, Thunderbird, Outlook (as if), and so on. I'm surprised some of the smaller ones like Canary or Spark don't implement it as a product differentiator.
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woodruffw ◴[22 Oct 25 19:59 UTC] No.45674372[source]▶
Serious question: what’s the differentiator if major email providers don’t support it?

(This should not be interpreted as a defense of IMAP.)

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whatevaa ◴[22 Oct 25 23:29 UTC] No.45676469[source]▶
IMAP is a shit protocol in general. Notably, email UIDs are not guaranteed to be static across sessions (aka, next time you connect they may be different), which is just straight up dumb. You IMAP client has to do a lot of workarounds just for this, which leads to gnarly bugs and inefficiences.
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1. woodruffw ◴[22 Oct 25 23:57 UTC] No.45676646[source]▶
I don’t even remotely disagree with this. But that wasn’t the point: the point was that JMAP is only a competitive advantage if (major) email providers actually adopt it. Bad technologies regularly win because of inertia.