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michaelmauderer ◴[] No.45668112[source]
The problem here is not the law, but malicious compliance by websites that don't want to give up tracking.

"Spend Five Minutes in a Menu of Legalese" is not the intended alternative to "Accept All". "Decline All" is! And this is starting to be enforced through the courts, so you're increasingly seeing the "Decline All" option right away. As it should be. https://www.techspot.com/news/108043-german-court-takes-stan...

Of course, also respecting a Do-Not-Track header and avoiding the cookie banner entirely while not tracking the user, would be even better.

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crazygringo ◴[] No.45668318[source]
No, the problem is 100% the law, because it was written in a way that allows this type of malicious compliance.

Laws need to be written well to achieve good outcomes. If the law allows for malicious compliance, it is a badly written law.

The sites are just trying to maximize profit, as anyone could predict. So write better laws.

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GTP ◴[] No.45670704[source]
The GDPR clearly states that denying consent has to be as easy as giving it.
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loeg ◴[] No.45670990[source]
The problem is the pop up banner. Having a big "deny" button does not solve the GDPR cookie banner problem.
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vanviegen ◴[] No.45671595[source]
I think that does eventually solve it. If clicking "deny" is as easy as clicking "accept", people will mostly just do the former.

As that will erode most worth derived from tracking, sensible operators will decide to stop annoying users and just ditch the tracking altogether. Or so I hope. I wouldn't know, as Brave does a pretty good job of hiding cookie banners in the mean-time.

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1. loeg ◴[] No.45675766[source]
If the goal of the law was to ban tracking, it should have just done that.

Otherwise, the purpose of the law is what it does -- mandate annoying tracking popups on every website.

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2. GJim ◴[] No.45681017[source]
> If the goal of the law was to ban tracking

*sigh*

Once again; the goal of the GDPR is to give users control of their personal data. There are (believe it or not) legitimate reasons why somebody might want to be tracked or allow their personal data to be collected; this is perfectly fine, provided its done fairly and the user gives their explicit opt-in consent.

This shouldn't be hard to understand.