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Criticisms of “The Body Keeps the Score”

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249 points adityaathalye | 1 comments | 22 Oct 25 18:49 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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hyperhello ◴[22 Oct 25 19:14 UTC] No.45673789[source]▶
Stoicism is the pole that you cannot control the world, but you can control your reactions to it. It's hard work.

The other pole is that you cannot control your reactions, but you can try to control the world. This is much easier to fit into a consumerist framework.

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bad_haircut72 ◴[22 Oct 25 19:17 UTC] No.45673837[source]▶
A DNA molecule without an environment is just a glob of atoms. Information flows in both directions.

On a purely human level though, you should go find some veterans with PTSD and tell them they're just not working hard enough at being stoic.

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hyperhello ◴[22 Oct 25 19:24 UTC] No.45673936[source]▶
I never told any veterans to work harder at being stoic, nor did I imply anyone should. That's part of a reaction you had to what I said.

I can't control what you say, but I can control my reaction to you. That's what stoicism is.

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Muromec ◴[22 Oct 25 19:41 UTC] No.45674152[source]▶
It's a good framework to survive in authoritarian country and maybe even a good one to promote as a dictator. You can in fact very often change what other people think, say and do.
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1. walkabout ◴[22 Oct 25 19:45 UTC] No.45674202{3}[source]▶
Stoicism specifies that one needs right acts, in addition to right thoughts. It’s far less passive than e.g. Russell (though I love Russell, and I even love The History of Western Philosophy in which he levels these criticisms, while many others seem to dismiss it) describes it, though treating it as purely an internal-mindset thing is certainly easier and I think a lot of people in-fact only apply those parts.