mindblowing - but still in the uncanny valley. and I guess it's cute that many of the characters live in a world where AI has caused an apocolypse, but is that really the message they want to lead with?
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Easier than ever now, as AI-assisted coding tools will build you that generic landing page and basic UI.
Three years ago we had a live streaming autogen-seinfeld twitch stream; some kind of coherent story telling via AI doesn't seem beyond reach today, the tools just haven't fully matured yet.
Younger generation who grow up with AI will just think it’s normal, like we think being connected to the internet via a rectangle you keep in your pocket is normal.
(Of course, excluding the obvious "that guy just knocked down a building!" CGI)
Kling still has the best proprietary video model, but Sora 2 is so smart that you don't need to edit anything if your target is social.
I don't see how Runway, Pika, or the rest of the purely foundation video model startups survive against the giants and the incredible open source Chinese models. They've got to be sweating bullets right now.
Everyone's also sleeping on xAI's high quality and insanely fast video model (10 second generations) that they're giving away completely for free without watermarks.
I think we'll see AGI first.
Wan – Open-source alternative to VEO 3 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44928997 - Aug 2025 (38 comments)
If you're talking about people firing up the ol' 5090 to make a "movie" about their favorite streamer falling madly in love with them for, ahem, personal use, I have no doubt that people will do that. And I will do everything in my power to avoid associating with such brain-rotted cretins.
Obligatory Jonas Ussing plug: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ttG90raCNo&list=PLgdTaHO8FL...
AI is but a tool; if there is an artist using them, real art can be created, as with any other tool.
My point is that you and I will probably never accept it - but our kids will never even think it’s weird in the first place.
Probably never. If AI is good enough to cover all the skills needed to do what would currently make a blockbuster movie for less than $1000, the demand for movies will be small enough relative to supply that there will be no such thing as a “blockbuster movie”
But I also suspect that most of these are indeed SEO scammers, that there's no actual service, and that all payments are pocketed. It might take a few days for the scam to be reported and the site taken down, but it's likely enough to get a few hundred bucks out of it. They'll never be pursued because of where they live, and they can have many of these up in no time, thanks to AI, as you say.
What a sad state of affairs that no "AI" company or government is taking seriously.
1. Goes to friends' place 2. Usual drinks, whatever gets you going activity 3. Each person writes a prompt 4. Chain them together 5. Watch the resulting movie together
That sounds hilarious and I can't wait to try
Before we see this and higher level of quality accessible to enthusiasts, we'll see these tools adopted by mainstream studios first, which is starting to happen.
I'm a firm "AI" skeptic, but if this technology has revolutionized anything, it has been image generation. A few years ago it was science fiction to have the quality of upscaling we take for granted today. I reckon the same will happen with video generation as well a few years from now. Unlike "ASI" and "AGI", these improvements are achievable with better engineering, and don't necessarily require a breakthrough.
On the other hand, I think the quality of movies and expectations will be a lot higher.
So far not one commenter in this thread has articulated why AI movies are inevitable.
Most people would use these tools for personal use, if nothing else. Seeing a celebrity, themselves, their friends, etc., act out any scenario they can think of is quite an appealing proposition. And porn, of course, for better or worse.
In the long-term, this has the potential to significantly change how media is created and consumed. Feature films produced by large studios will undoubtedly continue to exist, and they will also leverage the technology, but it's not difficult to imagine a new branch of personalized media becoming popular. The tools are practically already there; they just need to become more accessible, and slightly better.
This is obviously true, but I don't see how it relates to the question being discussed. "Short videos" and "blockbuster movies" are clearly widely separated categories, despite both being audiovisual content of some kind.
> Most people would use these tools for personal use
Not what we're talking about. Not "personalized media", not large studios "leveraging the technology", not "visual effects".
See: "blockbuster movies produced by a guy in his basement for <$1000".
So far, Ai generated videos, and arguably photos seem to only please wishful thinkers, or untalented artists dreaming to make it.
I don't imply the tech will never get to the tipping point, but it so far provides so little value we are either many years to go, or it just won't happen.
Let's be an optimist. It will eventually get there. I doubt for any of parallels you made billions of people hammered daily by overblown posts about the upcoming revolution.
The reasons for critiques have a lot to do with promotion fatigue. Hyperboles eventually exhaust their impact.
https://reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1lq299r/postscarci...
https://reddit.com/r/midjourney/comments/1o6ickx/dreaming_on...
https://reddit.com/r/midjourney/comments/1n6mzig/how_to_buil...
https://reddit.com/r/aivideo/comments/1nwdjdn/the_perfect_bo...
https://reddit.com/r/aivideo/comments/1m8a9wz/pinkington_rop...
https://reddit.com/r/aivideo/comments/1n52kut/derek_the_agin...
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I recall eerily similar things said about Google Glass..
Maybe AI generation will be used in popular media more often, but purely AI generated content or AI brain rot seems to only appeal to a small crowd of people right now, and I don't see that crowd growing significantly.
Maybe it's a technology problem, as Google Glass was, but I think that's inseparable from the content it actually generates at this non-AGI stage.
Regardless, it sounds very uncertain and perhaps even unlikely that what we see being created now is the future.
I have fond memories of laughing until I was in tears when playing with a group of friends over drinks during the lockdowns in 2020. Something about the process just naturally results in hilarity (especially if you're in a group where you can be offensive).
It's like exquisite corpse for t-shirts. Or, in your case, shorts.
Whenever one of my friend groups is gathered we always make it a point to do an exquisite corpse story on a piece of paper while we’re inebriated in some way xD Video version will be wild
No, that would require a radically different argument, in pretty much every way.
> if everyone can upload videos that anyone can watch, nobody will really be famous because fame will become very evenly distributed, right?
No, Youtube makes distribution cheap, but it doesn't substitute for most of the other things that differentiate between videos; most of the skills that provide variation between videos are still there, and not cheaply substituted via YouTube.
I've been using Ovi for about a week and it's a blast. Like all AI gen, it's a slot machine and even putting in good inputs might lead to bad outputs, but if you run it enough you'll get something good or usable.
I've definitely made many things that look and sound real with both I2V and T2V, albeit T2V tends to look more like 90s tv quality at times, but that also makes it seem more real. If you use Flux SPRO as the image source you can get some pretty realistic looking videos.
I do have a 5090, so it takes about 4 to 5 minutes to make a 5 second clip.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bS5P_LAqiVg
Im sure more wil follow.
The only catch is that I'd need to get 32 people who want VMs like this since I would have to do it for the entire box of compute.
Wan2.2 runs just fine on AMD.
Edit: perhaps 12 angry men was good enough at the time.
(loud music warning)
It's inevitable because you won't be able to tell the difference.
Though only a shared A40/A100 are in that price range.
they're not doing enough to optimize AI data generators for dopamine release with animalistic obsession. Instead they focus on scientific indistinguishablilitiness, and people aren't liking that. IMO that's has been an ongoing and growing costly mistake.
Also this model seems to benefit noticeably from having both Cuda >= 12.8 and Torch >= 2.8, and separately SageAttention over Flash 2. But I have yet to see any cache threshold with Easy or Tea that doesn’t get a bit postmodern.
and here you are, clutching pearls about AI girlfriends. lol. lmao.
There is no line, and you never claimed there was in your original comment, so stop moving the goalposts. Vague language like "personalized media becoming popular" is not the same thing as "blockbuster movies".
Calling my answer "short-sighted" when you couldn't be bothered to read the thread or apparently even the thing I was replying to is, in fact, on you.
I see you responded to this point elsewhere in this thread, but frankly your reply is a non-sequitur. I'm not sure what you mean by it.
Vultr is a box of 8 minimum and not on-demand and they don't offer VMs.
On the other hand, I offer the bare minimum (1 GPU for 1 minute) (or 2, 4, 8x), on-demand, no-contract, and an API to automate it all. We also have 100G unlimited bandwidth and free IPv4. Oh and our 8x box specs are generally better... 122TB of enterprise NVMe.
And yes, I'm well aware of the allegory of the cave. So is everyone. What I don't understand is why it's such a popular rhetorical device with people who have no discernible point but want to sound as if they do. It's actually quite ironic.
As a matter of fact, all the actually normal people I talk to about AI in person also find it offputting.
also, case in point, normal people don't dig through a random stranger's post history to look for an ad hominem opportunity, and instead evaluate individual posts by their contents. lol.
When AI slop figures out that formula, we are truly cooked
Porn is still taboo. It's understood that most people use it, but it's not exactly something you bring up in polite company.
Where on earth do you live that prostitution is "widely accepted by polite society"? You can go to jail for it where I am.
And I did address the rest of your comment. As I said, in my experience "normal" people do object to AI content. I don't know where you got the bit about "background checks" and being "allowed" to like stuff. Nobody I know had to be told to have an aversion to AI "art", it's a natural reaction.