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French ex-president Sarkozy begins jail sentence

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375 points begueradj | 9 comments | 22 Oct 25 05:49 UTC | HN request time: 0.233s | source | bottom
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greatgib ◴[22 Oct 25 10:01 UTC] No.45666908[source]▶
Something really scary in France right now is that you can see really clearly how most mainstream media are used for propaganda.

Since a few days, there is an abundance of cover and articles in most major newspaper here with propaganda and repeated lies supporting him. It's hard to imagine but non stop. You have everyday interviews of his family saying that it is an injustice, that he did nothing, that the judgement was rigged, that he was a great men that served France and so should not be treated like everyone else. Article about how sad the poor family is. Number of articles repeating friends of him verbatim s that the judgement was fake.

Almost none speaking about the facts, the grounds for his sentence, the big number of other trials against him that are running. And also the other definitive convictions he got. Like for attempting to bribe a head prosecutor to get insider info about his case. Using a prepaid line opened with a fake name...

But what you see in the end is that 90% of medias in France belongs to a few wealthy families that are friends with him.

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1. h1fra ◴[22 Oct 25 14:47 UTC] No.45669945[source]▶
As always, france is always just 5-10 years behind US craziness.
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2. FridayoLeary ◴[22 Oct 25 15:53 UTC] No.45671034[source]▶
US is 5-10 years ahead of Europe. MAGA is coming to France and the UK unless things change. In the UK the Conservatives and Starmer have seen to it. There are literally 2 things people in the UK want to see and both parties are stubbornly ignoring it, while failing to enact any policies that can actually help people. Meanwhile Starmer is becoming more authoritarian by the day. Trump didn't happen in a vacuum, ignore your electorate for too long and eventually they will respond.

The incredible successes of Trumps second term so far will encourage and empower populists everywhere.

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3. baby ◴[22 Oct 25 18:18 UTC] No.45673080[source]▶
I think we won't get there because we are willing to put corrupted politicians in prison. The day Trump goes to prison I will change my mind on US politics.
4. DFHippie ◴[22 Oct 25 18:57 UTC] No.45673580[source]▶
> The incredible successes of Trumps second term so far will encourage and empower populists everywhere.

Successes? He's succeeded at consolidating power because his own party and his partisans on the Supreme Court allow it. Also, destroying stuff is easy. What are these successes of which you speak?

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5. selimthegrim ◴[22 Oct 25 19:01 UTC] No.45673635[source]▶
Pray tell which two things do they want to see?
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6. FridayoLeary ◴[22 Oct 25 19:07 UTC] No.45673704{3}[source]▶
Getting control of immigration, which includes deporting them and massively overhauling the asylum system and seriously addressing and investigating the grooming gang scandal, which is probably the biggest scandal in recent history. I would actually now add a third thing which is to reign in the out of control police who are arresting people for causing offence. By the way these aren't even the biggest problems facing Britain, just serious ones which are recieving the most attention and for good reason, because they should be simple to fix and they are throwing away our sovreignty for terrible reasons.
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8. ben_w ◴[22 Oct 25 21:25 UTC] No.45675358{3}[source]▶
I'm not sure how much populists differ from authoritarians, but for the latter "consolidating power" is the definition of success, all else is unimportant.
9. selimthegrim ◴[23 Oct 25 00:52 UTC] No.45677000{4}[source]▶
So remind me who was the chief prosecutor of the grooming gang and who’s the home minister now?