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greatgib ◴[] No.45666908[source]
Something really scary in France right now is that you can see really clearly how most mainstream media are used for propaganda.

Since a few days, there is an abundance of cover and articles in most major newspaper here with propaganda and repeated lies supporting him. It's hard to imagine but non stop. You have everyday interviews of his family saying that it is an injustice, that he did nothing, that the judgement was rigged, that he was a great men that served France and so should not be treated like everyone else. Article about how sad the poor family is. Number of articles repeating friends of him verbatim s that the judgement was fake.

Almost none speaking about the facts, the grounds for his sentence, the big number of other trials against him that are running. And also the other definitive convictions he got. Like for attempting to bribe a head prosecutor to get insider info about his case. Using a prepaid line opened with a fake name...

But what you see in the end is that 90% of medias in France belongs to a few wealthy families that are friends with him.

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MangoToupe ◴[] No.45669424[source]
> is that you can see really clearly how most mainstream media are used for propaganda.

Was there ever a time or place where this was not true?

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1. glenstein ◴[] No.45669890[source]
To greater or lesser degrees, and in different ways. Which is important because otherwise you can end up "agreeing" to the reality of the phenomenon even if you have an entirely different thing in mind. I might be thinking of, say, Hungary or Poland weaponizing the press and using it to destroy their own democratic institutions. Someone else might think it means saying global warming is real.

In Hungary and Poland, they are specific, time-bound events with important institutional implications and unique factual circumstances. "It's always been that way" is risky because it can be used to airbrush away specific moral urgency with vagueness and false equivalences, and even functions to apologize for active advancements of authoritarianism as they are happening in real time.