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allenrb ◴[] No.45661384[source]
There is just so much wrong with this from start to finish. Here are a few things, by no means inclusive:

1. We’ve already beaten China to the moon by 56 years, 3 months, and some change. And counting.

2. Nothing based around SLS is remotely serious. The cost and timeline of doing anything with it are unreasonable. It is an absolute dead-end. The SpaceX Super Heavy has been more capable arguably as early as the second flight test and certainly now. They could have built a “dumb” second stage at any time, but aren’t that short-sighted.

3. Blue Origin? I’ve had high hopes for the guys for two decades now. Don’t hold your breath.

4. Anyone else? Really, really don’t hold your breath.

This whole “race to the moon, part II” is almost criminally stupid. Land on the moon when we can accomplish something there, not just to prove we haven’t lost our mojo since Apollo.

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Waterluvian ◴[] No.45662078[source]
Re: 1. I think the America of Theseus mindset is a bit troubling. A lot of people like to identify with achievements that they played no role in. Based on zero expertise whatsoever, I have a sense that this is a bit self defeating. To be born a winner, to be taught you’re a winner… how can that be healthy?

Today’s America scores zero points for its accomplishments of the past. But I think one way it can be a good thing is the, “we’ve done it before, we can do it again” attitude. Which is somewhat opposite to “we already won!”

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nicoburns ◴[] No.45666641[source]
> To be born a winner, to be taught you’re a winner… how can that be healthy?

The entire mindset of separating the world into "winners" and "losers" in the first place seems unhealthy to me.

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1. mlrtime ◴[] No.45667196[source]
On a specific topic where the entire point is a race? The point of a race is to win.

Have you worked for a company where they never win at anything? Been in meetings where people want to hear about 'wins'?

Maybe you don't, but I do. I like to work for a winning team.

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2. nicoburns ◴[] No.45667445[source]
That there is a competitive race is part of the assumption. That there is value in winning this race at the expense of other competitors is an assumption. That there will always be "losers" and we can't create a scenario where "everyone is a winner" is an assumption.

An alternative perspective on both space races, companies and life in general would be a collaborative one. I like to work on a productive, effective, successful teams, but I don't view that in terms of "winning" and "losing".