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crmd ◴[] No.45660666[source]
One of the first things I do after getting an inquiry from a recruiter or friend referral is lookup the MX record for the company’s email domain. It is an anonymous one-command check to see if they’re a Microsoft shop.

If they are, it’s enormous personal red flag. MSFT is very popular so I’m only speaking about my own experience, but I have learned over the course of 20 years that an MSFT IT stack is highly correlated with me hating the engineering culture of an organization.

I know I am excluding a lot of companies with great engineering culture where I would thrive and who just happen to use Outlook/Sharepoint/Teams, etc. but it has had such better predictive power of rotten tech culture than any line of questioning I have come up with during interviews that I still use it.

I don’t mean any disrespect to MSFT-centric engineers out there - it’s not you it’s me.

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fujigawa ◴[] No.45661217[source]
I'm gonna be honest, you sound like a problem employee.

The companies not using Microsoft, are using Google. Which in my experience is equally or measurably worse.

Just personal data points, but every avowed Microsoft hater I've ever worked with has been... difficult. Like a-drag-on-the-team-because-he-refuses-to-use-company-tools difficult.

Edit: How does an aged post on this site go from +4 to -1 in the span of a few minutes?

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bitmasher9 ◴[] No.45661318[source]
Doing research on a potential employer and filtering out opportunities based on preferred toolchains is a green flag not a red flag.
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Spooky23 ◴[] No.45661558[source]
Dev tools, sure. Self-selecting yourself out of the office/email toolset used by 90% of companies seems like a weird flex.
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philipallstar ◴[] No.45661755[source]
Teams is just so much more horrible than Slack and Zoom, and dev teams use Slack and/or Zoom.
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7thpower ◴[] No.45666284[source]
Slack is an unintuitive piece of junk, and yes I will die on this hill.
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rkomorn ◴[] No.45666289[source]
It is, but all the other ones I've had the misfortune of dealing with have been worse.

Including IRC.

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dotancohen ◴[] No.45667007[source]
A few years ago I worked at a company that actually used Telegram and Telegram Desktop. It was great. Available on mobile and desktop, all platforms, supports all the features we needed, new users get full history.
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1. rkomorn ◴[] No.45667036[source]
The best I've used, and I say this in all sincerity, is actually Facebook's work platform (but it's not a chat-first experience, obviously, and that's probably what made it better).