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crmd ◴[] No.45660666[source]
One of the first things I do after getting an inquiry from a recruiter or friend referral is lookup the MX record for the company’s email domain. It is an anonymous one-command check to see if they’re a Microsoft shop.

If they are, it’s enormous personal red flag. MSFT is very popular so I’m only speaking about my own experience, but I have learned over the course of 20 years that an MSFT IT stack is highly correlated with me hating the engineering culture of an organization.

I know I am excluding a lot of companies with great engineering culture where I would thrive and who just happen to use Outlook/Sharepoint/Teams, etc. but it has had such better predictive power of rotten tech culture than any line of questioning I have come up with during interviews that I still use it.

I don’t mean any disrespect to MSFT-centric engineers out there - it’s not you it’s me.

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fujigawa ◴[] No.45661217[source]
I'm gonna be honest, you sound like a problem employee.

The companies not using Microsoft, are using Google. Which in my experience is equally or measurably worse.

Just personal data points, but every avowed Microsoft hater I've ever worked with has been... difficult. Like a-drag-on-the-team-because-he-refuses-to-use-company-tools difficult.

Edit: How does an aged post on this site go from +4 to -1 in the span of a few minutes?

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Etheryte ◴[] No.45661276[source]
I don't know man, you're gonna have a very tough crowd if you're gonna try and convince anyone that Teams is as good as Google Meet.
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fujigawa ◴[] No.45661327[source]
They are all equally crap. I'm convinced the people designing collaboration tools don't have to use them on a daily basis.
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dieortin ◴[] No.45661410[source]
I’m sure the people who designed Teams and Meet use their own products on a daily basis. And if those are crap, what’s a better alternative?
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1. Lio ◴[] No.45665406[source]
Do they? Didn’t Microsoft force all its employees back to the office?

That doesn’t sound like they have faith in Teams themselves.

I use Teams every day and it can’t even do threading in channels properly. The spellchecker is unreliable and even copy and paste is occasionally patchy.

It is not a good product. I’d switch to Slack given the choice.

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2. alternatex ◴[] No.45668048[source]
Teams is used in the Teams org that develops it in Microsoft yes. Source: I work on Teams free/consumer.

Not to say that the developers working on it are satisfied with it..