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241 points fschuett | 14 comments | | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
1. nnevatie ◴[] No.45662067[source]
*OpenGL-style.
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2. Pannoniae ◴[] No.45662641[source]
Congrats for only reading the header ;) It's actually a pretty decent OpenGL 1.1 software implementation, obviously not complete and spec-correct though. It's more like those MiniGL drivers back in the day, implementing just enough of the spec so the game can run ;)

In a similar way, this implements just enough so Raylib's OpenGL backend can run! It was done so you can use the library without external graphics dependencies if you really want to.

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3. furyofantares ◴[] No.45663040[source]
That's an extremely snarky reply given the post is just a direct link to the header.
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4. Pannoniae ◴[] No.45663072{3}[source]
No, the doc-header of the header! Apologies if I wasn't clear. I just thought the GP zoomed in on the word "-style" in the first line without reading more (it's probably since it's not a full 1.1 implementation, just something which can do enough to shim a good chunk of 1.1 functions so the RL GL1.1 backend can run)
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5. furyofantares ◴[] No.45663306{4}[source]
Still, if you post a link to a roughly 5k line raw source file, rather than like, some post about it, roughly nobody is gonna read much of the file before commenting.

edit: I stand corrected by the downmods!

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6. kragen ◴[] No.45667184{5}[source]
This is kind of a systemic problem with HN: all the early comments on anything substantial are necessarily themselves insubstantial because the posters have not had time to read it.
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7. mkl ◴[] No.45667387{6}[source]
Only if it's brand new. Otherwise some people on HN are probably already familiar with it.
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8. kragen ◴[] No.45667545{7}[source]
Yes, that's arguably somewhat true of items like these:

  Go Subtleties You May Not Know (harrisoncramer.me)
  66 points by darccio 5 hours ago | flag | hide | 28 comments

  Evaluating Argon2 Adoption and Effectiveness in Real-World Software (arxiv.org)
  14 points by pregnenolone 3 hours ago | flag | hide | 1 comment

  The Gypsy Life of Robert Louis Stevenson (hudsonreview.com)
  37 points by Caiero 5 hours ago | flag | hide | 5 comments
That is, you might already be familiar with Robert Louis Stevenson's life story, Argon2, or the subtleties of Golang. Even if so, though, you probably won't be familiar with the book review in the current issue of the Hudson Review (of a book that came out last month), Cramer's particular take on those subtleties (which he posted two weeks ago), or even the Argon2 evaluation in the paper (which was posted in April).

I would argue that people posting comments in these threads consisting of only their pre-existing general knowledge of Stevenson and Argon2 are still failing to make substantial contributions to the conversation, because they will tend to repeat pre-existing errors whose correction is the largest contribution of the linked writings, or simply repost the predictable opinions they share with many other people. It's the opposite of the spirit of curious inquiry the site ostensibly seeks to foster.

And the majority of frontpage posts are about things that are in fact brand new:

  Greenland Ditches Starlink for French Satellite Service (dagens.com)
  323 points by saubeidl 4 hours ago | flag | hide | 189 comments
(news reporting from two days ago)

  Knocker, a knock based access control system for your homelab (github.com/fariszr)
  21 points by xlmnxp 2 hours ago | flag | hide | 29 comments
(new software project last month)

  Evaluating the Infinity Cache in AMD Strix Halo (chipsandcheese.com)
  90 points by zdw 6 hours ago | flag | hide | 33 comments
(news reporting from today on performance evaluations using an ASUS sample motherboard not available to the general public)

  Show HN: Cadence – A Guitar Theory App (cadenceguitar.com)
  55 points by apizon 5 hours ago | flag | hide | 8 comments
("Hello HN, I just released this music theory and ear training mobile app" a few weeks ago, with a trademarked name that will certainly have to be changed after a cease & desist)

  MinIO (apparently) becomes source-only (github.com/minio)
  144 points by LexSiga 5 hours ago | flag | hide | 107 comments
(a new release process change in this project from four days ago)

  rlsw – Raylib software OpenGL renderer in less than 5k LOC (github.com/raysan5)
  204 points by fschuett 14 hours ago | unvote | flag | hide | 69 comments
(a new software renderer committed on September 29)

  LLMs can get "brain rot" (llm-brain-rot.github.io)
  395 points by tamnd 20 hours ago | flag | hide | 245 comments
(a new paper published one week ago)

There is nothing substantial that anyone could say about any of these things without reading the article or bug thread or trying the software.

9. furyofantares ◴[] No.45669503{6}[source]
I know. I hold myself to a rule that I never comment if I didn't read the article.

I made an exception with this, because the "article" is simply a 5kloc header file. I only read some of it.

I don't have a problem with the submission but I don't know why you would expect someone to read enough of the header to realize that the opening line in the header saying "OpenGL 1.1-style" is underselling it and it's actually a "pretty decent OpenGL 1.1 software implementation".

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10. kragen ◴[] No.45670645{7}[source]
That's great, but structurally, the recency bias of HN tends to bury comments by people who follow rules like yours.
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11. furyofantares ◴[] No.45671261{8}[source]
I don't think making sarcastic remarks about someone failing to read enough of this header to work out that it's a pretty complete opengl implementation contrary to the implication at the start of the header is really doing much to fight the problem of people not reading articles before commenting.
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12. kragen ◴[] No.45672867{9}[source]
Your comment makes ne wonder who you think is making sarcastic remarks. I'm not. Probably "Congrats for only reading the header"?
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13. furyofantares ◴[] No.45674383{10}[source]
Yes, that is the comment at the top of this chain - which I criticized as a very snarky reply given the specifics of this post.
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14. kragen ◴[] No.45675952{11}[source]
Yes, sorry to be dense.