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heisgone ◴[] No.45659875[source]
I can imagine SpaceX choosing to self-finance a mission to the moon and beat NASA at it.
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ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 ◴[] No.45659951[source]
> I can imagine

That probably does require some imagination. Starting with any incentive to do so.

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testing22321 ◴[] No.45660186[source]
Elon just said starship will do the entire moon mission:

“Starship will end up doing the whole Moon mission. Mark my words.”

To address your question, what is the incentive for going to Mars

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dylan604 ◴[] No.45660338[source]
>To address your question, what is the incentive for going to Mars

To occupy it. Just look at Musk's t-shirt. Isn't the entire point of SpaceX to go to Mars? Everything else they do is just steps in achieving the occupation of Mars.

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coldpie ◴[] No.45660867[source]
> Isn't the entire point of SpaceX to go to Mars?

What? No, it is to concentrate public wealth into the hands of one man.

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Treegarden ◴[] No.45661069[source]
The tone of voice suggests you dislike Musk, but I will still answer in good faith. From what I can see from the outside, he has consistently for many years stated the same goals and worked on them. Any or most financial gains he made, he invested into his companies which work on accomplishing those goals (for example, going to Mars). The most notable example was investing his PayPal money into Tesla and SpaceX when they both were at risk of going out. He also has a reputation for working a lot, though it may be exaggerated, but he looks fairly unhealthy so maybe not too far off. Compared to other super rich people, he seems to spend less time in lavish ways, for example on yachts or similar. He probably still spends more money than we can imagine on unnecessary things, but on the spectrum of rich people he doesn't seem to be the most frivolous. Finally, he has said on Twitter that he doesn't care about money but needs resources for his goals, for example going to Mars. And after everything I’ve seen and the examples listed, it doesn’t seem totally implausible that he means it.
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coldpie ◴[] No.45661180{3}[source]
And all it took was ending public science funding and trust in public health and regulatory oversight and destroying the legislative and judiciary branches. Crazy how all the things it takes to get to Mars are also the same things that make him, personally, wealthier and more powerful.
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1. Treegarden ◴[] No.45661295{4}[source]
Well, let’s assume you’re correct about all that. To me, it seems he was already quite rich before doing all the Trump-related things you mentioned. Those might have made him richer, but I’d suspect they didn’t move the needle much compared to his real profit centers (probably Starlink and Tesla). If anything, I’d argue those actions made him poorer by further damaging his reputation. And any “power grab” motives he may have had likely evaporated after his fallout with Trump. One current example is exactly what sparked this thread: the NASA Chief seemingly trying to impress Trump by attacking SpaceX.
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2. dylan604 ◴[] No.45661516[source]
The best theory into why Musk was so gung-ho about DOGE was specifically to shut down any government agency that was out to keep him from continuing to increase his wealth. By that measurement, he was in charge of the most successful government agency. Whether or not that had any positive/negative affect for Trump was merely an irrelevant by product of the actual mission.
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3. philipallstar ◴[] No.45668758[source]
That's not the best theory. He thinks government was too big, and wanted to cut waste. Trump, it turns out, wanted to have a "big beautiful bill" and Musk strongly opposed that, saying any bill that's big isn't beautiful. So he got moved off DOGE by Trump.

SpaceX has always complied with the regulations and timings needed by regulatory bodies. This isn't a thing.

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4. dylan604 ◴[] No.45676846{3}[source]
Ge got moved off of DOGE because his 120 days were up. It was never a permanent gig for Musk. Those gigs require congressional approval.