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crmd ◴[] No.45660666[source]
One of the first things I do after getting an inquiry from a recruiter or friend referral is lookup the MX record for the company’s email domain. It is an anonymous one-command check to see if they’re a Microsoft shop.

If they are, it’s enormous personal red flag. MSFT is very popular so I’m only speaking about my own experience, but I have learned over the course of 20 years that an MSFT IT stack is highly correlated with me hating the engineering culture of an organization.

I know I am excluding a lot of companies with great engineering culture where I would thrive and who just happen to use Outlook/Sharepoint/Teams, etc. but it has had such better predictive power of rotten tech culture than any line of questioning I have come up with during interviews that I still use it.

I don’t mean any disrespect to MSFT-centric engineers out there - it’s not you it’s me.

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unethical_ban ◴[] No.45660852[source]
Companies that don't use Outlook? All five of them?

I've seen companies with varying levels of MS product integration but Outlook is pretty foundational.

Now, if a company says they use SharePoint or Teams to store their documentation, run to the hills. Wikis or bust.

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nneonneo ◴[] No.45661022[source]
God, Teams is absolutely miserable. Video calling on Teams makes you appreciate just how well Zoom works.

Teams macOS client? Crashes on startup, even after clearing all of my user data.

Teams iOS client? You can join a call by a link, but you can't see the call UI because it's behind the login window.

Teams on Firefox? No video support for years, and most recently just glitches out and shows an empty page when trying to join.

Teams on Chrome? Tried joining a meeting, and was told by the organizers that they couldn't admit me because the button wasn't doing anything.

I've had all four of these things happen within the last month, and it's made me want to tear my hair out. I get that none of these are "Microsoft Edge/native Windows client", but they could at least pretend to care about other platforms...

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1. sigmoid10 ◴[] No.45661189[source]
Over the years I have used teams on Windows, Mac, iOS, Android and various Linux distros (where I was limited to Chrome and Firefox due to lack of an official client). While it is certainly not the greatest tool in the world, I have never encountered issues like these.