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mentalgear ◴[21 Oct 25 17:21 UTC] No.45658540[source]▶
So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf.

I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approach. Of course that would require top-tier ML engineers who mostly all are pay-captured by Big Tech.

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1. mapontosevenths ◴[21 Oct 25 17:33 UTC] No.45658772[source]▶
Websites are terrible from a security, usability, accessibility, privacy, and mental health perspective. These tools could be used to fix all of those things. Instead they're just being used to do the same old junk, but like... faster.

I want an AI browser that digs into webpages, finds the information I want and presents it to me in a single consistent and beautiful UI with all of the hazards removed. Yes, I even want the stupid machine to filter content for me. If I tell it "no politics on Tuesdays" it should be able to go find the things I'm interested in, but remove the references to politics.

I understand that there are new risks to this approach, but it could be built with those things in mind. I'm aware that this would give a lot of power to the developers, but frankly trusting thousands/millions of individual weirdos on the open web hasn't turned out to be any better at this point and it's all become consolidated by near monopolies in user-hostile ways anyhow.

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2. mentalgear ◴[21 Oct 25 17:47 UTC] No.45659006[source]▶
I share many of your ideas, and I think the best solution would be:

1. a pure data API web (like the original semantic-web idea)

2. open-source browsers which can query for information using on-device LLMs and display it to the user in any UI way they want.

I think 1. will happen, since all search engines will use AI results, with no click through to the original data-owner (website). So there is no more financial incentive to keep a UI website. The question is if the "data API web" will be decentralised or under the control of a few big players that already mined the web.

2. will hopefully happen if on-device models become more capable, the question is by then whether most people are already defaulted to AI browsers from big tech (since they have the money to burn-cash using cloud LLM services to capture market share before on-device LLMs are good enough). The only way to prevent this is user-education and mistrust verus Big Tech, which is what already befell Microsoft's Recall (besides a terrible security architecure).

3. irilesscent ◴[21 Oct 25 19:03 UTC] No.45660121[source]▶
> I want an AI browser that digs into webpages, finds the information I want and presents it to me in a single consistent and beautiful UI with all of the hazards removed.

The browser you're looking for already exists :) (partially) its called arc browser on mobile and specifically their browse for me feature

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4. Ancapistani ◴[21 Oct 25 22:11 UTC] No.45662374[source]▶
Arc doesn’t have that functionality last I checked - are you thinking of Dia?
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5. mapontosevenths ◴[22 Oct 25 00:21 UTC] No.45663524{3}[source]▶
I just found it. Its called Arc Search and it seems to be really cool.
6. visarga ◴[22 Oct 25 01:22 UTC] No.45663906[source]▶
Hey, I like your thinking, I wrote about this a bit in another comment here

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45663857

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7. mentalgear ◴[22 Oct 25 20:44 UTC] No.45674913[source]▶
Likewise, let's further discuss: you can send me an email at this temporary address cdvcrg8zu@mozmail.com.