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South Africa's one million invisible children without birth certificates

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116 points mooreds | 2 comments | 14 Oct 25 01:13 UTC | HN request time: 0.691s | source
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hangonhn ◴[21 Oct 25 15:29 UTC] No.45657033[source]▶
China didn't issue birth certificates until 1996. Because I was born there before 1996, I do not have a birth certificate. In addition, I was also birthed at home instead of a hospital. That said, it's never been a hindrance. My parents managed to obtain Hong Kong permanent residency for all of us and I guess that sort of rooted my birthday and birth place and it's been a continuous line of documentation since then -- green card and finally US passport. I think this was helped by the fact HK probably dealt with this issue a lot during the latter half of the 20th century.
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1. dmoy ◴[21 Oct 25 15:48 UTC] No.45657257[source]▶
Yea not birth certificates from the hospital, but there is documentation. Well, there was for awhile. My grandpa definitely didn't have a birth certificate back in the 1930s (or 1920s? lol) in Taishan, but also no docs of any sort whatsoever..

But my MIL from Mao era has docs from the local officials that's all notarized, as does my wife. The dates might be... you know, not exactly right, but they're close, and importantly they're accepted by both the Chinese government and also other foreign governments for official purposes (immigration, etc).

I think I the article here we're talking about something fundamentally different from the last 70-ish in China. They're talking about people with like no official docs whatsoever, can't get healthcare, national ID card, anything. Very different from China 70 years ago, and very different from even pre civil war China.

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2. alephnerd ◴[21 Oct 25 15:58 UTC] No.45657377[source]▶
> I think I the article here we're talking about something fundamentally different from the last 70-ish in China

黑孩子 and 黑户 were fairly common until the last 5-6 years.

The issues mentioned in the article were prominent in rural China and the lower tier of migrant workers before e-governance innovations along with a relaxing on the one-child policy started a decade ago.

Furthermore, the township mentioned in the article is itself one of those migrant areas in Cape Town, similar to what urban villages are in Beijing and other cities in China.