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South Africa's one million invisible children without birth certificates

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116 points mooreds | 7 comments | 14 Oct 25 01:13 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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bombcar ◴[21 Oct 25 13:52 UTC] No.45655813[source]▶
For reference, the US has procedures for this: https://www.usa.gov/citizenship-no-birth-certificate because people without birth certificates are still somewhat common, even children.

Vermont didn't require it until 1955!

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thatguy27 ◴[21 Oct 25 13:57 UTC] No.45655877[source]▶
So does South Africa. However, capable administrators are severely lacking.
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mothballed[dead post] ◴[21 Oct 25 13:59 UTC] No.45655906[source]▶
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afavour ◴[21 Oct 25 14:01 UTC] No.45655935[source]▶
If I was looking to cite evidence that South Africa has a racist past I'm not sure stadium chants would be my _first_ example...
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femiagbabiaka ◴[21 Oct 25 14:37 UTC] No.45656380[source]▶
One of the main figures lionized in that song (which is an anti-colonialist chant to be clear) is a white guy, Joe Slovo. These people are unserious.
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1. mothballed ◴[21 Oct 25 14:49 UTC] No.45656525[source]▶
Joe Slovo isn't Boer; of course he has no problem with Kill the Boer as he allied himself with the ANC againts the Boer. Being white doesn't excuse you from tribalism/racism.
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2. femiagbabiaka ◴[21 Oct 25 15:16 UTC] No.45656877[source]▶
Tribalism is not when you colonize a country and terrorize the former residents from centuries. Tribalism is when your multi-racial coalition pens a song expressing their rage at said terror. I understand now, priors updated.
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3. FredPret ◴[21 Oct 25 16:16 UTC] No.45657620[source]▶
Are you familiar with South Africa?

There's at least a dozen different tribes, of which only two are white. There's been inter-tribal violence between all of them since time immemorial leading up to today.

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4. femiagbabiaka ◴[21 Oct 25 16:27 UTC] No.45657780{3}[source]▶
Are you?

Because I don't know a single South African who would describe historical intertribal violence and Dutch colonialism and apartheid as basically the same thing.

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5. FredPret ◴[21 Oct 25 17:02 UTC] No.45658250{4}[source]▶
Your argument was "there's no tribalism except what the whites brought to South Africa", remember?

And elsewhere you say that because of this, violence against white South Africans are justified.

This is not only insane, but simply historically incorrect. I'm going to stop replying to you now (apparently there's a "HN Blocklist" Chrome addon!) but feel free to keep justifying calls for political and ethnic violence.

It should make interesting reading for others in the decades to come.

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6. femiagbabiaka ◴[21 Oct 25 18:27 UTC] No.45659632{5}[source]▶
> replies to my comment

> gets a bunch of basic facts wrong

> stomps off, hits block button

The apartheid fans are not bringing their best I'm afraid.

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7. antonvs ◴[21 Oct 25 20:57 UTC] No.45661613{6}[source]▶
> The apartheid fans are not bringing their best I'm afraid.

Oh believe me, they are.