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Bare Metal (The Emacs Essay)

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billfruit ◴[] No.45653702[source]
While I still use emacs, I find that that despite the "batteries included" narrative about emacs, the things which are not included are causes of major frustration.

Such essential functionality like grep-find and LSP servers which is required for out of the box auto complete are not bundled with emacs. Most modern IDEs/editors have these functionality baked in.

If you install emacs for windows you find that grep-find doesn't work, because it depends on support from environment. A full text search should be built into the editor.

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ubermonkey ◴[] No.45655085[source]
>If you install emacs for windows...

...you are a second class citizen in the emacs republic.

I mean, I don't endorse this position, but it's the way things are.

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DonHopkins ◴[] No.45655228[source]
>If you install emacs for mac...

...you are a third class citizen in the emacs republic.

In spite of the fact that you can't spell emacs without mac.

Also:

>If you install emacs for linux...

...you get flamed for not calling it gnu/linux.

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slowmovintarget ◴[] No.45656184[source]
Emacs for Mac is fine though?: https://github.com/jimeh/emacs-builds

That build has native compilation, and if you go for a Doom install you may need to build ripgrep yourself, but... that's also not difficult.

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1. jpfromlondon ◴[] No.45656246[source]
they mean you live within the walled garden, that you are playing make-believe.
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2. ubermonkey ◴[] No.45658831[source]
That's not true, either, but I understand it's important for a certain sort of FOSS person to believe it anyway.
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3. jpfromlondon ◴[] No.45666460[source]
take it up with the fundamentalists, I'm a Mac Emacs user.
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4. ubermonkey ◴[] No.45668047{3}[source]
Ah, fair. Me too.