Production RAG: what I learned from processing 5M+ documents

I must be missing something, this says it can be self-hosted. But the first page of the self-hosting docs say you need accounts with no less than 6 (!) other third-party hosted services.

We have very different ideas about the meaning of self-hosted.

I consider this to be good open source and I'm a happy user of their OSS offering. Want no hosted dependencies? Then go write it all in Rust.

I’ve never worked in such a space where the deployed environment had unfettered internet access, no access at all actually.

I’ve probably missed a huge wave of programming technology because of this, and I’ve figured out a way to make it work for a consistent paycheck over these past 20 years.

I’m also not a great example, I think I’ve watched 7 whole hours of YouTube videos ever, and those were all for car repair help.

I shy away from tech that needs to be online/connected/whatever.

That was my observation as well. To be fair their business is to sell a hosted version, they’re under no obligation to release a truly self hosted version.

that's a stupid take and shows lack of engineering experience

You can self-host their code. I don't think there is any official definition of "self hosted" that this violates.

For example - if a "self hosted" service supports off-site backups is it self hosted or just well designed?

In that case I’m self hosting every web page on the internet because I installed Firefox.

> For example - if a "self hosted" service supports off-site backups is it self hosted or just well designed?

There is a big difference between communicating with external services (your example) vs REQUIRING external services (what parent is complaining about).

If in your example the system can run correctly with just local backups I would consider it self-hosted.