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floatrock ◴[] No.45645042[source]
The buried lede:

Anthropic: "$2.66 billion on compute on an estimated $2.55 billion in revenue"

Cursor: "bills more than doubled from $6.2 million in May 2025 to $12.6 million in June 2025"

Clickthrough if you want the analysis and caveats

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Kuinox ◴[] No.45645251[source]
I could find an ARR for Cursor of $500M. Why do they they in this article that Cursor is loosing with this spending number ?
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LetsGetTechnicl ◴[] No.45645476[source]
Ed's mentioned ARR in previous articles and it's not a "generally accepted accounting principle". They cherry pick the highest monthly revenue number and multiply that by 12, but that's not their actual annual revenue.
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dcre ◴[] No.45645513[source]
"Cherry pick the highest" is misleading. If your revenue is growing 10% a month for a year straight and is not seasonal, picking any other than the most recent month to annualize would make no sense.
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mossTechnician ◴[] No.45645733[source]
If a company's revenue in January is $100 and it grows by 10% every month, the December revenue is $285. The year's revenue would be about $2,138, but ARR in December would be $3,423. That's 1.6x the actual revenue.

ARR could be a useful tool to help predict future revenue, but why not simply report on actual revenue and suggest it might increase in the next year? I have found the most articles to be unclear to the reader about what ARR actually represents.

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dcre ◴[] No.45645963[source]
Why is the calendar year the relevant unit? If you insist on years, then if you consider the year from June to June, $2,138 would be misleading small.

The point of ARR is to give an up to date measure on a rapidly changing number. If you only report projected calendar year revenue, then on January 1 you switch from reporting 2025 annual revenue to 2026 projected revenue, a huge and confusing jump. Why not just report ARR every month? It's basically just a way of reporting monthly revenue — take the number you get and divide it by 12.

I am really skeptical that people are being bamboozled by this in some significant way. Zitron does far more confusing things with numbers in the name of critique.

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1. LetsGetTechnicl ◴[] No.45646009[source]
Because that's a part of the generally accepted accounting principles: https://www.rightrev.com/gaap-revenue-vs-arr/

Nobody considers a year from June to June because that would be misleading.

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2. dcre ◴[] No.45646038[source]
That is an article explaining why ARR is useful and important despite not being the same thing as GAAP revenue.