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41 points thunderbong | 18 comments | | HN request time: 0.421s | source | bottom
1. ChocolateGod ◴[] No.45632788[source]
> While some draft specifications could be released in 2027, the official Wi-Fi 8 standard is projected to be finalized only in mid-2028. Commercial products that officially support the new standard are not expected to reach the market until late 2028 at the earliest.

I bet companies will release WiFi 8 products even when it's still a draft, just as they did with WiFI 7.

I upgraded my home setup to WiFi 7 a few weeks ago, and after being a WiFi hater for so long, was actually surprised at how much better it was over my previous experiences with WiFi. With MLO clients get 2-3ms latency with 2.5Gbit links, I'm all for WiFi 8 trying to reduce the latency further, I don't need more speed.

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2. hulitu ◴[] No.45633743[source]
>I bet companies will release WiFi 8 products even when it's still a draft, just as they did with WiFI 7.

No need to be left behind. They can already release WiFi 9 products. /s

3. Neywiny ◴[] No.45639373[source]
I have a computer with a 1G Ethernet phy designed before everything was ratified. Not great. I'll make sure to wait
4. halapro ◴[] No.45679591[source]
I don't need lower latency, I need better congestion management. WiFi in busy areas (like airports) sucks.
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5. IlikeKitties ◴[] No.45679810[source]
I recently torrented a movie on a airport wifi while waiting for a plane and it worked so well, even when walking around the airport to the plane. I was impressed.
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6. piva00 ◴[] No.45679882[source]
I haven't encountered issues with airports' WiFi in many years, at least not the ones I fly from in Europe.

What airports have you seen issues lately? It's one thing I haven't thought about in a long time.

7. 2III7 ◴[] No.45679920{3}[source]
Use a remote server for such vile behavior.
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8. IlikeKitties ◴[] No.45680096{4}[source]
Nah, that's too much work, public wifi is great for that.
9. lazycatjumping ◴[] No.45680163[source]
> I bet companies will release WiFi 8 products even when it's still a draft, just as they did with WiFI 7.

They must. Otherwise it cannot be tested within the labs.

And producing chips before a standard is finalized is usually no problem at all: there are gates within the standardization process where the will be no more changes that are relevant for the silicon.

These 802.11n-draft APs were a singular fuckup regarding this.

10. miyuru ◴[] No.45680174{4}[source]
can you explain why using torrents is vile behavior?
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11. CuriousRose ◴[] No.45680230{5}[source]
Without a personal opinion one way or the other, I would assume the gripe is with congesting the public network as opposed to the choice of public domain documentaries you downloaded.
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12. cheschire ◴[] No.45680311{6}[source]
“Linux ISOs”
13. mikepurvis ◴[] No.45680381[source]
Similar transition for me. Basic dual AP setup that I took from first gen UAPs (wifi 4) to U7 Pro. I think I have only one client (a Lenovo laptop) that connects with wifi 7, but even the wifi 6 devices are screamers now; my phone can get 600mbps symmetric with line of sight or 200-300mbps from two floors away. Just bonkers.
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14. IlikeKitties ◴[] No.45680401{6}[source]
Oh to be clear I illegally downloaded copyrighted works of major movie studios while they had just hit the streaming sites.
15. throw0101a ◴[] No.45680422[source]
> WiFi in busy areas (like airports) sucks.

This is part of what opening up the 6 GHz was about.

But there are also provisions in newer standards like Target Wake Time: the client can be told to sleep for a while, not using radio spectrum (and also saving battery).

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ah#Target_Wake_Time

OFDMA allows multiple clients to use the same frequency at the same time (using sub-channels):

* https://airheads.hpe.com/blogs/antar1/2020/10/19/why-is-ofdm...

* https://community.tp-link.com/us/home/stories/detail/201

16. beAbU ◴[] No.45680680[source]
> I bet companies will release WiFi 8 products even when it's still a draft, just as they did with WiFI 7.

They've been doing this since the dawn of wifi pretty much. I distinctly remember seeing "802.11 draft n" being printed an all the hot new and faster wifi cards back in the day.

17. ChocolateGod ◴[] No.45681305[source]
They're not necessarily different things. Increased latency can happen as a result of congestion on the band.
18. nerdsniper ◴[] No.45683574[source]
I'm now curious if upgrading from two Unifi U6 LR's to U7 Pro's would offer significant benefits for Wifi 6 endpoints.