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Just curious and who knows, maybe someone will adopt it or develop something new based on its ideas.
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renehsz ◴[] No.45557467[source]
The Plan 9 operating system.

It's the closest thing to a Unix successor we ever got, taking the "everything is a file" philosophy to another level and allowing to easily share those files over the network to build distributed systems. Accessing any remote resources is easy and robust on Plan9, meanwhile on other systems we need to install specialized software with bad interoperability for each individual use case.

Plan9 also had some innovative UI features, such as mouse chording to edit text, nested window managers, the Plumber to run user-configurable commands on known text patterns system-wide, etc.

Its distributed nature should have meant it's perfect for today's world with mobile, desktop, cloud, and IoT devices all connected to each other. Instead, we're stuck with operating systems that were never designed for that.

There are still active forks of Plan9 such as 9front, but the original from Bell Labs is dead. The reasons it died are likely:

- Legal challenges (Plan9 license, pointless lawsuits, etc.) meant it wssn't adopted by major players in the industry.

- Plan9 was a distributed OS during a time when having a local computer became popular and affordable, while using a terminal to access a centrally managed computer fell out of fashion (though the latter sort of came back in a worse fashion with cloud computing).

- Bad marketing and posing itself as merely a research OS meant they couldn't capitalize on the .com boom.

- AT&T lost its near endless source of telephone revenue. Bell Labs was sold multiple times over the coming years, a lot of the Unix/Plan9 guys went to other companies like Google.

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1. teddyh ◴[] No.45558512[source]
> The reasons it died are likely:

The reason Plan 9 died a swift death was that, unlike Unix – which hardware manufacturers could license for a song and adapt to their own hardware (and be guaranteed compatibility with lots of Unix software) – Bell Labs tried to sell Plan 9, as commercial software, for $350 a box.

(As I have written many times in the past: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22412539>, <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33937087>, and <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43641480>)

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2. EdiX ◴[] No.45558646[source]
Version 1 was never licensed to anyone. Version 2 was only licensed to universities for an undiscolsed price. Version 3 was sold as a book, I think this is the version you are referring to. However note that this version contained a license that only allowed non commercial uses of the source code. It also came with no support, no community and no planned updates (the project was shelved half a year later in favor of inferno)

More than the price tag the problem is that plan 9 wasn't really released until 2004.

3. Shugyousha ◴[] No.45560667[source]
Strictly speaking, it's not dead. The code is now open source and all the rights are with the Plan 9 foundation: https://p9f.org/

It's just unlikely that it will get as big of a following as Linux has.

4. pjmlp ◴[] No.45565771[source]
Had UNIX also been something like other OSes price points, instead of a song as you say, it would never even taken off, it was more about the openess and being crazy cheap than the alternatives, than anything else.