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madacol ◴[] No.45537701[source]
Even if Venezuela goes to hell even deeper, she still deserves the prize for what she has already done!

The way she, and her team, managed to convince venezuelans that the election mattered, and to prepare to gather the evidence of the elections under constant threats from the government, that we all knew they were going to steal, and do it entirely peacefully, was an extremely impressive achievement on its own.

What an impressive act of coordination from MCM

:standing-ovation:

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yostrovs[dead post] ◴[] No.45538013[source]
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jeltz ◴[] No.45538700[source]
You may think that but Alfred Nobel disagreed and it is his prize. If she fits the criteria is another question but it was certainly not intended to just be about real wars and real peace (whatever that is).

    den som har verkat mest eller best för folkens förbrödrande och afskaffande
    eller minskning af stående arméer samt bildande och spridande af
    fredskongresser

    shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations,
    for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and
    promotion of peace congresses
English translation is taken from Wikipedia and not totally exact but close enough.
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littlestymaar ◴[] No.45539809[source]
How is the quote contradicting GP's position?

From the quote it doesn't seem like Alfred Nobel had civil or political rights in mind with his prize. (Not that it bothers me to give it to civil rights activists though)

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jeltz ◴[] No.45542008{3}[source]
It does because Alfred Nobel cared about internationalism and pacifism, neither "real wars" nor civil rights. I did not say she was a worthy winner just that we should look at what the will actually says instead of just inventing an own definition.
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1. littlestymaar ◴[] No.45542324{4}[source]
Excuses me, English isn't my native language but how isn't “fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses”[1] talking about actual war between countries (which I'm pretty certain is what yostrovs was talking about with (arguably clumsy) “real war” phrase.

[1]: (emphasis mine)