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ErneX ◴[] No.45536814[source]
She’s been in hiding since the last elections that Maduro blatantly stole. I lost hope myself about Venezuela but I wish the regime ends soon for those still there enduring it.
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goku12 ◴[] No.45536905[source]
I understand your frustration. But you may want to avoid a foreign interference/invasion more than a bad regime. The former is arguably worse than the latter, though there are exceptions.
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aglavine ◴[] No.45537678[source]
No it isn't at all. Venezuela and South America need Foreign forces to stop the Venezuela cartel.
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goku12 ◴[] No.45538634[source]
Like Afghanistan? Or Germany after WWII? You talk of these 'Foreign forces' as some sort of benevolent power liberating people from tyranny for charity. Wait till they stay back to extract payment for their 'efforts'. We have watched decade and decades of this moral grandstanding destroy weaker nations. And need I remind you how much these 'foreign forces' are responsible for creating the hellish conditions in South America though their interference in the first place? It's just replacement of one tyrant with another. Another that brings in weapons and troops from outside the country.
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ErneX ◴[] No.45538778[source]
I fully understand what you mean.

But just so you picture it: things are so dire there after 25 years that people would even cheer at any country intervening.

So let’s pause for a moment and think: what is the best alternative? Keep enduring the regime like the Cubans have been doing for double the time we have? That’s also a depressing outlook.

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goku12 ◴[] No.45539274[source]
> That’s also a depressing outlook.

Of course it is. I'm not denying or downplaying how bad it is. These situations are scary as hell. They're not supposed to happen. And it must change. Venezuela deserves peace. But now imagine the alternative you're thinking of.

To start with, who was responsible for the political turmoil in South America for much of its history? Imagine another invasion. Do you expect them to withdraw as soon as the current Venezuelan regime has fallen? The regime that's virtue signalling now has a history of proudly brandishing their xenophobia and racism. What do you think life will be like under a remote controlled rule by them? There are plenty of examples around the world for how that will end. Is that the change you wish for?

> what is the best alternative?

The best alternative is for the native population to bring about change without foreign interference. But honestly, I have no clue if that's practical at all. I don't know any other solutions either. The people must decide for themselves as to how to resolve this. All I'm saying is that you must be careful about the intentions of anyone who steps in offering help. I sincerely wish that the Venezuelans win peace. Good Luck!

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1. ErneX ◴[] No.45540342[source]
Thanks mate, that’s what the people have been trying for many years but it’s an uphill battle when they have the all the repressive means and the population does not.