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madacol ◴[] No.45537701[source]
Even if Venezuela goes to hell even deeper, she still deserves the prize for what she has already done!

The way she, and her team, managed to convince venezuelans that the election mattered, and to prepare to gather the evidence of the elections under constant threats from the government, that we all knew they were going to steal, and do it entirely peacefully, was an extremely impressive achievement on its own.

What an impressive act of coordination from MCM

:standing-ovation:

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yostrovs[dead post] ◴[] No.45538013[source]
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bmmayer1 ◴[] No.45538260[source]
Who would you give the Nobel Peace Prize to?
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delichon ◴[] No.45538537[source]
From the New York Times "The Daily" podcast today:

  Mark, what you've described and what we're seeing unfold is genuinely an impressive feat by Trump. To be able to capitalize on what seemed like this giant setback. Israel literally bombed the negotiators and the mediators. To turn that around and get a deal that Biden couldn't get done, that no other leader in the world had managed despite trying for two years straight. It is significant achievement. He was able to bring these sides together that had shown no willingness to end the war. And now they've come to this agreement. And it should also be said that one of the biggest things here is that he was willing to put pressure on Netanyahu in a way that President Biden was unwilling to do. Why do you think that's the case?
  I think there's a few reasons. First, I think Trump genuinely wanted to end the war. He campaigned on ending the war in Ukraine and in Gaza.
Too late for this year, but if it holds it should be considered for next year.
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jeltz ◴[] No.45538779[source]
Trump does not fit the criteria set out by Alfred Nobel. By increasing the NATO spending he worked against "the abolition or reduction of standing armies" and he has made the "fraternity between nations" a lot worse with random threats which I doubt would weight up his "promotion of peace congresses".

I really hope they would not award someone the prize who works so blatantly against the word and spirit of the criteria in the will.

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1. Izkata ◴[] No.45538935[source]
Those criteria sound like they should disqualify the person who actually got it.
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2. jeltz ◴[] No.45539162[source]
Perhaps, but I was talking about Trump now. He would be a pretty big violation of the spirit of the will even if he would not be the first such.

I will personally try to refrain from commenting on the Venezuelan opposition since I do not know enough about them.

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3. Izkata ◴[] No.45539399[source]
I hadn't heard of her either before today, I'm basing that on what people have said here - all good for sure, but unrelated to those criteria.