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    Nobel Peace Prize 2025: María Corina Machado

    (www.nobelprize.org)
    522 points pykello | 14 comments | 10 Oct 25 09:03 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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    madacol ◴[10 Oct 25 11:35 UTC] No.45537701[source]▶
    Even if Venezuela goes to hell even deeper, she still deserves the prize for what she has already done!

    The way she, and her team, managed to convince venezuelans that the election mattered, and to prepare to gather the evidence of the elections under constant threats from the government, that we all knew they were going to steal, and do it entirely peacefully, was an extremely impressive achievement on its own.

    What an impressive act of coordination from MCM

    :standing-ovation:

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    yostrovs[dead post] ◴[10 Oct 25 12:09 UTC] No.45538013[source]▶
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    madacol ◴[10 Oct 25 12:13 UTC] No.45538063[source]▶
    ... and yet the consequences of what's going is as if there was war, the economy is suffering as if there was war, the people are fleeing as if there was war and dying as if there was war

    You don't need a war to have a lack of Peace!

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    1. yostrovs ◴[10 Oct 25 12:23 UTC] No.45538157[source]▶
    But then there are dozens of impoverished and unjust places on earth. I think the reality is that the five exclusively Norwegian politicians on the Peace prize committee are politicians. And they act accordingly. What if the committee would consist of Russian politicians exclusively, or Venezuelan ones?
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    2. ivell ◴[10 Oct 25 12:32 UTC] No.45538238[source]▶
    Nobel peace prize was always political. Obama got it. Gandhi was rejected.
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    3. dotancohen ◴[10 Oct 25 12:40 UTC] No.45538309[source]▶
    This has confused me for long enough. What specific action did Obama do to be awarded the Nobel peace prize?
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    4. fifilura ◴[10 Oct 25 12:49 UTC] No.45538400{3}[source]▶
    It was probably premature.

    But the relation between USA and the Arabic states were on an all time low after the Bush Crusade.

    And Obama reached out to fix the relations. This is my recollection of it.

    But i can agree that the rushed decision created problems afterwards for the committee. Like today when it is questioned.

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    5. zimpenfish ◴[10 Oct 25 12:53 UTC] No.45538442{4}[source]▶
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Nobel_Peace_Prize

    > The 2009 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to United States president Barack Obama (b. 1961) for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples".

    6. Zigurd ◴[10 Oct 25 12:57 UTC] No.45538474[source]▶
    The difference between whataboutism and discussion is that in discussion you propose an alternative. For example: how about that real estate developer who has fumbled multiple diplomatic initiatives?

    That would be a basis for discussion.

    7. Master_Odin ◴[10 Oct 25 13:02 UTC] No.45538525{3}[source]▶
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Nobel_Peace_Prize provides a good overview of why he got the award and the surrounding controversy.
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    8. markjenkinswpg ◴[10 Oct 25 13:03 UTC] No.45538535{4}[source]▶
    Interesting summary. The relationship with some Arab speaking states has had some recent relevance.
    9. peterfirefly ◴[10 Oct 25 13:09 UTC] No.45538588{3}[source]▶
    Obama and Gore both got it for not being Bush.
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    10. Zigurd ◴[10 Oct 25 13:45 UTC] No.45538973{4}[source]▶
    I can remember when that was a huge contrast.
    11. throwaway48476 ◴[10 Oct 25 14:04 UTC] No.45539229{3}[source]▶
    Black. It had a very high approval rate in Europe.
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    12. mcphage ◴[10 Oct 25 14:30 UTC] No.45539530[source]▶
    > But then there are dozens of impoverished and unjust places on earth.

    They only give out one prize, which means that no matter which they pick, there will be dozes of impoverished and unjust places that don't get recognized by it. That can't be used to reject a choice, since it's true no matter what choice they make.

    13. dormento ◴[10 Oct 25 14:37 UTC] No.45539610{4}[source]▶
    > black

    > throwaway48476

    Every time.

    14. dotancohen ◴[10 Oct 25 16:06 UTC] No.45540507{4}[source]▶
    - Promotion of nuclear nonproliferation.

    - Reaching out to the Muslim world.

    I see. Thank you.