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weli ◴[] No.45536827[source]
Don't get me wrong. She has firmly opposed maduro and is a beacon of hope for many in Venezuela but she hasn't accomplished anything meaningful yet? She is just a career politician that just happens to be in the opposition of the venezuelan goverment when Maduro (a dictator) is in power. But she hasn't done anything extraordinary to merit the award.
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alejoar ◴[] No.45536915[source]
Opposing a dictatorship at great personal risk, being exiled, banned from elections, and still leading a democratic movement isn't "nothing".

I think this prize recognizes her courage and fight for human rights.

Dismissing that as "just being in the opposition" ignores the reality of what it takes to stand up to Maduro's dictatorship.

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Al-Khwarizmi ◴[] No.45537473[source]
Not to diminish her valor and heroism. Mad respect. But how is that actually about peace?

A dictatorship can be peaceful, and a democracy can be warlike. Venezuela hasn't been involved in any war recently as far as I know. Of course people who fight for democracy deserve being praised and supported, but to me it looks odd to do so with a peace prize.

The prize is supposed to be awarded to people who have "done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses". Is this the case here?

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ErneX ◴[] No.45537885[source]
Then I would argue that the current regime is at war with its own population.
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1. mc32 ◴[] No.45538142[source]
Is there a civil war with guerrilla warfare? Or do you mean figuratively at war like the war on drugs?
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2. ErneX ◴[] No.45538171[source]
The regime has been constantly committing crimes against the humanity. They created an 8 million people exodus.

They kidnap, torture and kill political prisoners.

Deployed the national guard on the favelas to kill indiscriminately thousands without a fair trial.

You can Google all the UN reports on these matters.

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3. mc32 ◴[] No.45538410[source]
It sounds like repression —which if extreme enough approaches (civil) war. I’ll give you that but then we’d include Cuba, North Korea and a few other countries as well.
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4. ErneX ◴[] No.45539204{3}[source]
Every country should be rooting for our situation to be solved. We have way too many people abroad enduring bad situations that would be better back at home with a decent government and democracy restored.

There are people that have WALKED all over the continent to flee, all the way to the US and Canada or Argentina, Chile, etc.

5. Yokolos ◴[] No.45539246{3}[source]
Sure. Now name people who are more deserving of the Nobel peace prize as this woman and explain their accomplishments and why it should make them a better pick. I'll wait.

I don't really understand what you're arguing for or against. That this woman doesn't deserve the prize because there are places worse than Venezuela? What does that have to do with the Nobel peace prize? This isn't a "pick the worst place on earth" contest.

I honestly don't understand any of the complaints in these comments. Is it because she's a woman? Or what? I've not seen anybody make any substantial arguments as to why she shouldn't be eligible.

6. lostdog ◴[] No.45541299{3}[source]
If someone was working to bring elections to North Korea, then they too would deserve a Nobel.