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weli ◴[] No.45536827[source]
Don't get me wrong. She has firmly opposed maduro and is a beacon of hope for many in Venezuela but she hasn't accomplished anything meaningful yet? She is just a career politician that just happens to be in the opposition of the venezuelan goverment when Maduro (a dictator) is in power. But she hasn't done anything extraordinary to merit the award.
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alejoar ◴[] No.45536915[source]
Opposing a dictatorship at great personal risk, being exiled, banned from elections, and still leading a democratic movement isn't "nothing".

I think this prize recognizes her courage and fight for human rights.

Dismissing that as "just being in the opposition" ignores the reality of what it takes to stand up to Maduro's dictatorship.

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weli ◴[] No.45537361[source]
I'm not saying that she isn't a good politician or that what she is doing is not a step in the right direction. I personally like her. All I'm saying is that she hasn't accomplished anything meaningful to merit the Nobel prize.

That's like giving the Nobel in physics to someone that has worked all their life publishing papers but they all have been refuted and proven wrong.

I don't think "prize" for the merit of being relentless in their fight for publishing physics papers is merited, maybe a different honor, but Peace Nobels should be given to - and i quote -:

"to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."

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1. vasco ◴[] No.45537425[source]
Can you list which of the recent nobel peace prizes were attributed according to your standards?
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2. weli ◴[] No.45537454[source]
They are not my standards. They are the Nobel Peace committee's standards. And I do agree Nobel Peace prizes are purely performative, but this one alongside Barack Obama has been one of the most performative ones I can remember.
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3. CaptainOfCoit ◴[] No.45537594[source]
> They are the Nobel Peace committee's standards

I think they're older than that, Nobel apparently left a will that included three conditions for what we today call the Nobel Peace Prize:

> and one part to the person who has done the most or best to advance fellowship among nations, the abolition or reduction of standing armies, and the establishment and promotion of peace congresses.

https://www.nobelprize.org/alfred-nobel/full-text-of-alfred-...

4. palata ◴[] No.45537743[source]
> They are not my standards. They are the Nobel Peace committee's standards.

So you're saying that the Nobel Peace committee has not been following their standards? I find this pretty hard to prove... it's like if you were telling me that even if I say that my favourite color is green, it probably isn't because green is not that special a colour.

5. therealpygon ◴[] No.45537868[source]
If it is their own standards, then aren’t they implicitly in the better position to make those judgements than you?
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6. kelipso ◴[] No.45538114{3}[source]
Why would they be? They are just regular people who can make mistakes like everyone else. Don’t tell me Obama implicitly deserved it lol.