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Nobel Peace Prize 2025: María Corina Machado

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522 points pykello | 17 comments | 10 Oct 25 09:03 UTC | HN request time: 1.112s | source | bottom
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unsupp0rted ◴[10 Oct 25 09:21 UTC] No.45536823[source]▶
Is the Nobel Peace Prize given to people who accomplished a lot as individuals (like Maria Corina Machado) or people who accomplished a lot at scale without doing much beyond a few phone calls and document-signings, like Trump?

Because a few phone calls and document-signings can bring about many orders of magnitude more "peace units" in the world, if backed by the world's largest economy and the world's most effective military at projecting power.

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1. 9dev ◴[10 Oct 25 09:38 UTC] No.45536938[source]▶
The Nobel peace prize cannot be given to someone who rebrands the ministry of defence to the ministry of war and proclaims on a stage that he hates his enemies. These things are mutually exclusive.
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2. eru ◴[10 Oct 25 09:40 UTC] No.45536951[source]▶
Why? Do they have rules against that?
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3. throw101010 ◴[10 Oct 25 09:49 UTC] No.45537000[source]▶
And arguably it should not be given to someone who requests/asks/begs for it constantly and openly. It would brign about all sorts of bad incentives in something that should be a reward for good intentions and efforts.
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4. 9dev ◴[10 Oct 25 09:55 UTC] No.45537042[source]▶
There doesn't need to be. Basic dignity and logical thinking tell you that an award for honest efforts to facilitate peace awarded to MLK and Mother Teresa cannot be awarded to someone like Donald Trump. And you see that obviously the Nobel committee shares this opinion, which is why he luckily did not receive it.
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5. 9dev ◴[10 Oct 25 09:55 UTC] No.45537048[source]▶
That, too, and heaps of reasons more.
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6. unsupp0rted ◴[10 Oct 25 09:59 UTC] No.45537068[source]▶
Or to somebody who makes dynamite
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7. cheema33 ◴[10 Oct 25 10:08 UTC] No.45537129[source]▶
Not only that. He has threatened to militarily invade countries like Canada and Greenland just because he wants what they have. He also asked his supporters to punch his critics in the face and offered to pay their legal fees.
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8. 9dev ◴[10 Oct 25 10:15 UTC] No.45537153[source]▶
Which is why Nobel himself was never awarded the Peace Prize, rendering your entire comment useless?
9. ReptileMan ◴[10 Oct 25 10:28 UTC] No.45537242{3}[source]▶
Have you checked some of the winners? Arafat is there and so are Kissinger - the napalm sticks on kids guy and Obama - the guy that shot hospitals and weddings in Afghanistan. Trump will fit right in.
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10. card_zero ◴[10 Oct 25 10:36 UTC] No.45537282{3}[source]▶
Go on ..? On the face of it, a prize for holding back from being an asshole seems like a good thing, and perhaps a more worthwhile incentive than a prize for saints who would have been extremely virtuous anyway.
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11. timeon ◴[10 Oct 25 10:38 UTC] No.45537293[source]▶
Do you really think this was clever take?
12. ksynwa ◴[10 Oct 25 10:38 UTC] No.45537295[source]▶
But then how will the world learn of his peaceful ways by force?
13. eru ◴[10 Oct 25 10:41 UTC] No.45537306{4}[source]▶
To be fair, when Obama got the prize, he hadn't done any of that, yet, because he got it right away before he did anything.
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14. chrneu ◴[10 Oct 25 11:38 UTC] No.45537735[source]▶
I mean, he's sending troops to domestic democrat cities because he watched a fox news segment that showed footage from 2020. .....
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15. parrellel ◴[10 Oct 25 14:10 UTC] No.45539284{3}[source]▶
I will admit I've had some fun pointing the Fox News crowd to live Oregon traffic cams.
16. throw101010 ◴[10 Oct 25 14:11 UTC] No.45539294{4}[source]▶
Incentivizing foreign interventions in conflicts "just" to earn a prize and risking to aggravate a situation/conflict/war does not sound good at all to me.

It's not about rewarding saints, it's about rewarding people who do genuine efforts to bring peace in this world.

You wouldn't want to incentivize a reckless vigilante just because some of the times it might lead to a desired outcome, disregarding all the times they'd get it wrong and would cause injustices (leading to more chaos, and not peace) just in their selfish pursuit of accolades and prizes.

Trump is openly mentioning that what he's doing right now is worth a prize, can't get closer to doing it "for the prize". He exaggerates all his accomplishment (no he did not end 7, 8, 9, etc. wars... barely even one).

All of this is done/said for one purpose, and it's not actually peace. It's one thing you can't reproach to him, he is pretty transparent in his intent when you give him a microphone. Do you think he will lose sleep over the peace in the middle east failing (once again)... or do you think he will care more about not getting the prize he literally mentions every time he's questioned about a war?

17. 9dev ◴[10 Oct 25 18:49 UTC] No.45542384{5}[source]▶
If I remember correctly, even the man himself later admitted to being thoroughly confused as to why he would get it.