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cuttothechase ◴[] No.45532033[source]
The fact that we now have to write cook book about cook books kind of masks the reality that there is something that could be genuinely wrong about this entire paradigm.

Why are even experts unsure about whats the right way to do something or even if its possible to do something at all, for anything non-trivial? Why so much hesitancy, if this is the panacea? If we are so sure then why not use the AI itself to come up with a proven paradigm?

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torginus ◴[] No.45533296[source]
LLMs are literal gambling - you get them to work right once and they are magical - then you end up chasing that high by tweaking the model and instructions the rest of the time.
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vidarh ◴[] No.45533984[source]
Or you put them to work with strong test suites and get stuff done. I am in bed. I have Claude fixing complex compiler bugs right now. It has "earned" that privilege by proving it can make good enough fixes, systematically removing actual, real bugs in reasonable ways by being given an immutable test suite and detailed instructions of the approach to follow.

There's no gambling involved. The results need to be checked, but the test suite is good enough it is hard for it to get away with something too stupid, and it's already demonstrated it knows x86 assembly much better than me.

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1. b_e_n_t_o_n ◴[] No.45534313[source]
If you were an x86 assembly expert would you still feel the same way? (assuming you aren't already)
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2. vidarh ◴[] No.45537392[source]
Probably not. I have lots of experience with assembly in general, but not so much with x86. But the changes work and passes extensive tests, and some of them would be complex on any platform. I'm sure there will be cleanups and refinements needed, but I do know asm well enough to say that the fixes aren't horrific by any means - they're likely to be suboptimal, but supoptimal beats crashing or not compiling at all any day.