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Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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392 points lairv | 3 comments | 09 Oct 25 13:27 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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HAL3000 ◴[09 Oct 25 14:59 UTC] No.45528648[source]▶
All of the examples in videos are cherry picked. Go ask anyone working on humanoid robots today, almost everything you see here, if repeated 10 times, will enter failure mode because the happy path is so narrow. There should really be benchmarks where you invite robots from different companies, ask them beforehand about their capabilities, and then create an environment that is within those capabilities but was not used in the training data, and you will see the real failure rate. These things are not ready for anything besides tech demos currently. Most of the training is done in simulations that approximate physics, and the rest is done manually by humans using joysticks (almost everything they do with hands). Failure rates are staggering.
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1. martythemaniak ◴[09 Oct 25 18:56 UTC] No.45531634[source]▶
Rodney Brooks (of iRobot fame) wrote an essay recently about why humanoids are likely decades and not years away from fulfilling their promise. It is quite long, but even a gpt summary will be quite valuable.

https://rodneybrooks.com/why-todays-humanoids-wont-learn-dex...

In short, he makes the case that unlike text and images, human dexterity is based on sensory inputs that we barely understand, that these robots don't have, and it will take a long time to get the right sensors in, get the right data recorded, and only then train them to the level of a human. He is very skeptical that they can learn from video-only data, which is what the companies are doing.

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2. app13 ◴[09 Oct 25 20:15 UTC] No.45532530[source]▶
Most companies are using world model simulations for training nowadays, like Issac Gym or Mujoco, not just video data.
3. smath ◴[10 Oct 25 14:03 UTC] No.45539219[source]▶
came here to see if anyone had read Rodney's recent essay - and to ask how does this announcement by Figure square with Rodney's essay.

The essay was long so I cant claim I read it in detail - one q in my mind is whether humanoids need to do dexterity the same way that humans do. yes they dont have skin and tiny receptors but maybe there is another way to develop dexterity?