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There is a huge pool of exceptional junior engineers

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263 points mooreds | 1 comments | 30 Sep 25 03:17 UTC | HN request time: 0.228s | source
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zeroq ◴[30 Sep 25 04:02 UTC] No.45421771[source]▶
hot take: covid killed a generation

If you were a junior in 2020 and right of the bat you were forced to work remotely you missed a great deal of learning experience. Or you had really bad time getting hired, at least up to a point, because business was booming.

Oh, and then you had that whole swarm of bootcamp graduates who thought they could cheat the system, get a degree in hello world and land a $300k job.

Back in 2013 I was making fun of job offers that would require 5-7y of experience in JS for a senior position. 7y of what? JQuery?

Same thing applies today. If someone started his career in 2001 I wouldn't even consider him if he had a job in BigCo.

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lisbbb ◴[30 Sep 25 04:23 UTC] No.45421866[source]▶
Not sure why you're getting the hate. What you said is fairly accurate--there was a time period in which a lot of poorly skilled people were getting hired and that caused a lot of disruption inside of companies because you ended up getting all these ego-driven, writing checks their skills can't cash type of people. It was annoying as hell. I remember having a problem that was a slam dunk for using a state machine and this one guy argued against it because he didn't even know what a state machine was, but of course could not admit that to anyone. Anyways, he lost that argument, but why did we have to have it in the first place? Ooooh right--someone got hired as a Sr. Dev who wasn't really Senior anything.
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1. zeroq ◴[30 Sep 25 11:14 UTC] No.45424130[source]▶
Unsolicited advise, that's one thing I've learned about far too late in my life.

You know, if you have a brother or someone really, really close, and you're preparing for a wedding or a funeral, and they have a shirt that look absolutely ridiculous and you tell them that, they look at you, you match your eyes, and they trust you with their life. Well that doesn't happen in normal life.

Normally, what happens in ordinary life is you have a colleague that looks, smells or did something stinky, you want to be the good guy, you let him know and he's like "omg, he hates me, all hands to battle stations, that guy, aim that guy, he tried to wrong me!". And if he's slightly less on the spectrum than you - you're toasted. You're under fire, and there's no getting out.

And this happens every time you try to swim up the river in this current.