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Cornbilly ◴[] No.45421796[source]
When I hire juniors, I try to give them problems that I know they likely won't be able to solve in the interview because I want to see how they think about things. The problem has become that a lot of kids coming out of college have done little more than memorize Leetcode problems and outsourced classwork to AI. I've also seen less and less passion for the career as the years go by (ie. less computer nerds).

Unless the company is doing something that requires almost no special domain knowledge, it's almost inevitable that it's going to take a good while for them to on-board. For us, it usually takes about year to get them to the point that they can contribute without some form of handholding. However, that also mostly holds true for seniors coming to us from other industries.

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1. davidCraigFergu ◴[] No.45422103[source]
As an EE working on energy based models[1]; good.

No one should be required to acquire a special literacy or hire an expert in a specialized literacy to use a well understood computing technique (Von Neumann and Turing).

IMO software first engineers are not much different than rent seekers. Using lexical tools based on understanding from the 1960s is hardly high tech.

For all their high minded rhetoric, SWEs are just self selecting biology driven by "FU got mine" philosophy like so many others. After 30 years in tech, it's become quite clear the majority are not much different than an ICE agent; willfully ignorant because their personal compensation banging

[1] figuring out how to store/recompute the geometry of an oscilloscope to keep it brief; too much syntax sugar involved as-is