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isodev ◴[] No.45382255[source]
I’ve always lived in places where having an ID on you has been part of your “citizen responsibilities”. So reading the post my feeling was “oh cool, they’re getting a new eID-like system”. But I imagine it’s a huge step if folks could get by without an ID at all.
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Nursie ◴[] No.45382459[source]
In the UK it has never been compulsory to carry ID, even when driving.

At a traffic stop the police have the option to require you to present documents at a police station within seven days if they think something is fishy.

And people do seem to exist quite happily without formal identification. As someone who has always had a passport and driving license it was a bit of an eye-opener to me, but if you don't drive and don't travel, some folks just get by without.

So if there is a requirement to have a Britcard, and to present your 'Britcard' when stopped for any reason, then it is definitely a change.

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angulardragon03 ◴[] No.45383691[source]
The counterpoint to this is obviously that the requirement to present ID to vote is tantamount to voter suppression - iirc there is no “free” form of ID in the UK.

As an ex-Brit I am also used to carrying an ID and a drivers license, and I’ve always found it quite weird that you can’t get an ID card of any kind that isn’t a full-fledged passport or a drivers license.

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Nursie ◴[] No.45384028[source]
I mean I guess this new thing is going to be free?

I also don't live in the UK any more, still a brit and not yet Australian, but I have had to adjust to it being necessary to carry your license here when driving. It means I can't really leave home without my wallet, which is odd. We're getting electronic licenses before long though, hopefully.

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dbetteridge ◴[] No.45393016[source]
Australia is state by state based too, some states have more reasonable rules of "present it on request"

Others like nsw are carry always

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1. Nursie ◴[] No.45401929[source]
AFAICT here in WA it’s “you should carry but it’s not an offence if you don’t and you can sort it out later a bit like the UK”.

But I’m not 100% sure so I’m making sure I’m carrying just in case.

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2. dbetteridge ◴[] No.45402892[source]
That's exactly what it is in WA :)

Source: I live there

Have also driven there for 15+ years and never been asked for my license.