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motbus3 ◴[] No.45387247[source]
Can anyone really point me out the real problem about the immigrants? How big is it compared to, for example the lack of funding of the NHS or the hyper funding of other initiatives such as war in Ukraine.

Or are those things somehow related? I would be crazily scared to know that immigrant care workers will leave NHS as most hospitals relies on them. The government already made clear they won't pay people more nor will give more benefits for NHS workers and I am quite sure not Brits will take those spots when Tesco express pays more for less hours of work with more benefits.

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Arch-TK ◴[] No.45392143[source]
The NHS may lack funding, or it may not. But what is certain is that if you know how the NHS operates internally, or you know someone who does, then it's extremely evident that the NHS is severely mismanaged by administrators who definitely are not underfunded.

I think saying "the NHS is underfunded" all day is just ignoring the other major issue: even when the NHS has funds, they squander most of them.

I don't think solving just one of them will solve the whole problem, but maybe solving the blatant corruption at the NHS's administrative level might improve their financial situation by virtue of the money not lining the pockets of the rich.

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1. rglynn ◴[] No.45395892[source]
Not to mention if you have suddenly have 1 million more people a year, many of whom are not in good health, you will suddenly have a lot more demand on that already broken and under-funded system.
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2. motbus3 ◴[] No.45398471[source]
Where do you assume they are not in good health? Or many of them are not in good health? Most of them are university students or economic active people as far as I know.

Cutting those places will put UK in even a worse place then after Brexit.

For sure there are sick people. Over any population there is a sample which is sick, but how much is it according to you or your sources?

I don't think, nor I have proof, but seems logical, that there will be many more healthcare workers than sick people.

The real mess is not about immigrants, I cannot blame them for the lack of investiment, training and planning over 20 years or more. If anything, I am grateful that if I go to a hospital they can admit me because there is AT LEAST enough people. It seem lack of character to change policies after asking people to come.