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RobKohr ◴[] No.45389953[source]
"Federal funding typically covers 80% of bus purchases, with agencies responsible for the remainder."

Well, there is your answer. The one making the purchase isn't the one primarily paying for the purchase. This makes them less sensitive to pricing.

Kinda like how expensive healthcare is since it is paid for by insurance.

Or how you don't care how much you put on your plate or what you choose to eat at an all you can eat buffet.

The second you detach the consumer from the price of something, even through an intermediary such as health insurance, that is when they stop caring about how much something costs, and so the price jumps.

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qgin ◴[] No.45392764[source]
I have a $6500 deductible. I definitely care what things cost because my insurance almost never actually helps pay for anything unless I have an unbelievably bad year.

The problem is that literally nobody can tell me how much anything is going to cost until I get the bill in a month. Not even because they don't want to tell me. Nobody at the desk even knows what my price is going to be because it's all numberwang.

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moduspol ◴[] No.45392878[source]
Not defending insurance but theoretically you do also get a better rate than the uninsured rate just by having it go through the health insurance.

I say “theoretically” because I’ve also heard they’re often willing to cut some pretty good deals if you don’t have insurance and pay cash. And I mean “good” relative to the initially billed amount, not “good” relative to what it should actually cost.

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nickjj ◴[] No.45394106[source]
I was told it's also illegal in the US for a hospital to bill you as uninsured if you have insurance.

You won't get in trouble but the hospital will, but if they ask if you have insurance and you say no when you do, that could change the situation.

Again, I'm not a lawyer but this was they told me once a few years ago because I got charged a ridiculous amount for something and wanted to see if it would be cheaper if I just paid without insurance considering my deductible was many thousands of dollars.

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1. fma ◴[] No.45394786[source]
This is correct. I have been in situations where I am told the cash price and then "I cant tell you how much it will be with your insurance". Come to find out cash was A LOT cheaper. They cant undo it.

I have also been in a situation where insurance price was cheaper.

Thereinlies the problem..without know the price people CANNOT make an informed decision. There is no freemarket. This done on purpose and only happens in America.