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bahmboo ◴[] No.45392244[source]
Seems like a good time to highlight this video from Grin Technologies and their experience with ebikes over the years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j92Gt4VviSQ

Summary Statement: He summarizes the results of the "sabotaging" attempts by saying, "we just couldn't for the life of ourselves get a nonprotected modern lithium battery to do anything" [02:40:27], in terms of causing a fire. (referring to 18650s)

There are certainly problems out there with cells but it was a surprising statement from someone with a ton of real-world experience. Also they are a very conscientious company so they don't deal with dodgy stuff if they can avoid it.

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1. nubinetwork ◴[] No.45394658[source]
I've seen other videos of people driving nails into 18650s and "spicy pillow" square cells, and most of them didn't even let off a puff of smoke. What the vaping community was doing 10-15 years ago to launch batteries into the ceiling is beyond me.
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2. VectorLock ◴[] No.45396000[source]
The vaping community was basically shorting the cells. I'm not sure how a modern 18650 or prismatic cell would handle that.