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355 points pavel_lishin | 8 comments | 26 Sep 25 13:57 UTC | HN request time: 1.046s | source | bottom
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isthispermanent ◴[26 Sep 25 17:32 UTC] No.45388969[source]▶
So the authors basic argument is to offshore bus production. As if that doesn’t carry any negative side effects.

This is exactly what the majority of Americans voted against and exactly why the left can’t find its footing. Everyone is now fully aware that offshoring for a cheap sticker price comes with higher, harder to price costs elsewhere.

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1. rfrey ◴[26 Sep 25 17:46 UTC] No.45389120[source]▶
Blaming this on the amorphous "left" is extraordinary, when offshoring has been a 40 year project of corporate America and "shareholder returns at any cost". A neoliberal global order has been the traditional Republican platform.
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2. everdrive ◴[26 Sep 25 17:49 UTC] No.45389160[source]▶
It's also just not advisable. It's better to attack policies rather than groups.
3. gosub100 ◴[26 Sep 25 18:20 UTC] No.45389474[source]▶
The left serves corporations at least as much as it claims to represent the people. That is why they are blamed.
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4. GuinansEyebrows ◴[26 Sep 25 18:40 UTC] No.45389687[source]▶
Sorry to be glib but I’m not sure you’re familiar enough with the political left to make a statement like this so confidently.
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5. gosub100 ◴[26 Sep 25 19:01 UTC] No.45389862{3}[source]▶
That's not refuting my claim. It's turning the claim into an ad-hominem by attacking my character. You can research who donates to Democratic candidates if you want to see evidence of my claim.
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6. GuinansEyebrows ◴[26 Sep 25 21:00 UTC] No.45390976{4}[source]▶
by and large, US Democrats are center-right by policy. relatively leftward from your rank and file GOP goosesteppers, sure. maybe we feel the same way, but i wouldn't make the mistake of categorizing someone like Chuck Schumer as a left politician.
7. rfrey ◴[26 Sep 25 21:01 UTC] No.45390982[source]▶
This is confusing. If I accept your statement, then it seems:

1) The democrats hypocritically supports offshoring while claiming to support workers

2) The republicans explicitly (prior to Trump, but MAGA is not very similar to traditional Republicans) support corporations and offshoring as a mechanism for increased profits

And so we blame "the left"?

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8. gosub100 ◴[27 Sep 25 00:17 UTC] No.45392337{3}[source]▶
No they aren't exclusively to blame. But they were a big part of elimination of manufacturing jobs in the 90s, and were huge critics of attempts to bring them back. I don't want people thinking that the left are some kind of "underdog" that is championing the people. Also their fiscal policy doesn't depend on manufacturing jobs. They can just print more cash and hand it out in various "programs". They, as a party, profit off suffering of Americans because they are always there to sell their voters a solution. The worst thing that could happen for them is people doing well. Because they won't be needed anymore.