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1. pjc50 ◴[] No.45385502[source]
> There will be no requirement for individuals to carry their ID or be asked to produce it - but digital ID will be mandatory as a means of proving your Right to Work.

So it's mandatory for everyone except old people and the unemployed. It will almost certainly also be mandatory for renting, which has the same check. Then it will gradually seep into everything else: benefits and pensions, to cover the categories not initially covered. Then police spot checks and ICE sweeps.

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2. GJim ◴[] No.45385563[source]
> and ICE sweeps

Sorry old boy, but what have the *UK* Institute of Civil Engineers got to do with this?

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3. pjc50 ◴[] No.45385577[source]
Using the name of the US body to associate it with the immigration sweeps carried out in an abusive manner; the corresponding UK immigration raids are currently the responsibility of the Home Office.
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4. mc32 ◴[] No.45385587[source]
The best way to win an argument is to mix and unrelated match facts… I mean, unless someone notices…
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5. KaiserPro ◴[] No.45385591[source]
This isn't the USA, ICE doesn't exist here.

We have the border force, and they aren't allowed to cover their faces, yet.

But to your point, its required to have some sort of ID for renting, job or voting _already_ the difference here is there is a digital version of it.

The other thing is that driving licenses are also ID, that carry a £10k fine for not keeping your address up to date.

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6. mc32 ◴[] No.45385594{3}[source]
Presumably they have their own British acronym and don’t need to borrow one from the US.
7. pjc50 ◴[] No.45385642[source]
> its required to have some sort of ID for renting, job or voting _already_ the difference here is there is a digital version of it

It's strange how last time I campaigned against ID cards 25 years ago, none of those requirements were in place. Voter ID in particular is a very recent idea imported from the US (and of course doesn't apply to postal votes, where there are actually real concerns about security and diversion).

8. masfuerte ◴[] No.45385705[source]
It will eventually be required for everybody except the wealthy.

Just like nearly everybody's medical privacy has been given away in the UK.

Like nearly everybody's rights are unenforceable because they can't pay the enormous costs of a court action.

British freedom is great if you can afford it.

9. jaggs ◴[] No.45385963[source]
Please stop Americanizing the UK. ICE does not exist in the UK.
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10. tencentshill ◴[] No.45389022[source]
Stasi, Gestapo, ICE. You know what they meant. The UK just doesn't have the equivalent aggressive immigrant-removal operation in place yet.
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11. ratelimitsteve ◴[] No.45389313{3}[source]
okay but the best way to win a tennis match is to score an unrelated match point
12. jaggs ◴[] No.45389930{3}[source]
And may never have. Believe it or not the UK and the USA are two different countries, thank goodness. So making an assumption that the two will adopt exactly the same policies is a little ambitious to say the least. For example please note that the UK just agreed to recognize Palestine.