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remarkEon ◴[] No.45382398[source]
>The proposals are the government's latest bid to tackle illegal immigration, with the new ID being a form of proof of a citizen's right to live and work in the UK.

How does a digital ID solve an illegal immigration problem? I watched the video and the suggestion is that this makes it easier for employers to verify that someone is authorized to work. Is that actually true? I don't live in the UK and have not visited in several years. If the idea is that a digital ID authorizes employment ... well I hope people can see the problem, here.

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1. viraptor ◴[] No.45382925[source]
If anything it could help legal immigration. There's a bootstrapping issue where you need a utility bill to open a bank account and a bank account to get paid and get paid to pay the utility bill. And also need all 3 to rent a property to live in. You can choose the right providers to work around that with just your passport, but that involves a bit of work and research.

No idea how that would solve anything illegal though and realistically, I don't think they do either.

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2. monerozcash ◴[] No.45382999[source]
Presumably most legal immigrants already have bank accounts overseas and do not suffer from this bootstrapping issue.
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3. piperswe ◴[] No.45383216[source]
Good luck paying rent/utilities in the UK, or proving a UK address, with a foreign (especially non-SEPA) bank account
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4. cdsghh ◴[] No.45383540{3}[source]
I have been doing so for years, never had a problem.
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5. viraptor ◴[] No.45384268[source]
Most companies will not pay a local employee to an international amount. You're also going to pay quite large fees for any transfers if you wanted to pay bills. Also, the account abroad is not a proof of address in the UK which is the thing you want from statements.
6. viraptor ◴[] No.45384273{4}[source]
You have not been proving your UK address with your account abroad. You may have used it for other purposes, but not that.
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7. tpm ◴[] No.45384309[source]
Long time ago when I came to the UK I had that exact problem, there was only one bank (HSBC I think) that agreed to open an account for based on passport only. Even though I'm an EU citizen and UK was part of the EU at that time. Otherwise I would be stuck, because my employer (no employer I know of) would send my wage overseas.
8. cdsghh ◴[] No.45384689{5}[source]
I have done that once too, just changed the account address to my UK address and printed a PDF statement. No problem whatsoever.

But anyway, you can just get utilies and pay with foreign account. This gets you an utility bill.