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jmclnx ◴[] No.45379448[source]
Germany lower that the US ? That is a bit questionable to me.
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iagooar ◴[] No.45379531[source]
High crime, high taxes, stagnating economy. I am surprised Germany landed this high on the list.
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twixfel ◴[] No.45379657[source]
Crime isn't high. No real risk of random violence in my experience (unlike the US, e.g. >weekly school shootings etc.). Taxes and economy, they aren't good right now true.
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add-sub-mul-div ◴[] No.45380181[source]
> From the 2000–01 to 2021–22 school years, there were 1,375 school shootings at public and private elementary and secondary schools, resulting in 515 deaths and 1,161 injuries.

1,700 people out of ~50 million K-12 students in a 22 year period.

.003352% chance of injury or worse over 22 years. And now I realize the denominator should be bigger because it doesn't count faculty/staff or college students.

There's no reason to live in fear of school shootings. (But there should still be much greater gun control.)

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1. gusgus01 ◴[] No.45380565[source]
I think only concentrating on those that were shot or injured ignores the impact of being exposed to gun violence, especially during formative years in a situation where it's in the building you're in and results in the death or injury of your friends. Hundreds of thousands of people in the USA have experienced being in a school shooting event.

I also think that it's fair to think about other examples of exposure to violence and not just the Parent's example of weekly school shootings. Speaking of gun violence, I'm not sure I know anyone personally in the USA who haven't been impacted by it, whether that's knowing someone who was hurt, having to lock down at work or home, having to drive a different route home because of an active shooting, or just hearing it and then hearing the sirens. Of course, these are not all equal, but it's interesting to think about.