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jasoneckert ◴[] No.45366812[source]
As someone who has used the Snapdragon X Elite (12 core Oryon) Dev Kit as a daily driver for the past year, I find this exciting. The X Elite performance still blows my mind today - so the new X2 Elite with 18 cores is likely going to be even more impressive from a performance perspective!

I can't speak to the battery life, however, since it is dismal on my Dev Kit ;-)

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typpilol ◴[] No.45366858[source]
How's the compatibility? Are there any apps that don't work that are critical?
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electroly ◴[] No.45367015[source]
Surface Pro 11 owner here. SQL Server won't install on ARM without hacks. Hyper-V does not support nested virtualization on ARM. Most games are broken with unplayable graphical glitches with Qualcomm video drivers, but fortunately not all. Most Windows recovery tools do not support ARM: no Media Creation Tool, no Installation Assistant, and recovery drives created on x64 machines aren't compatible [EDIT: see reply, I might be mistaken on this]. Creation of a recovery drive for a Snapdragon-based Surface (which you have to do from a working Snapdragon-based Surface) requires typing your serial code into a Microsoft website, then downloading a .zip of drivers that you manually overwrite onto the recovery media that Windows 11 creates for you.

Day-to-day, it's all fine, but I may be returning to x64 next time around. I'm not sure that I'm receiving an offsetting benefit for these downsides. Battery life isn't something that matters for me.

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brokencode ◴[] No.45367050[source]
That’s brutal.. I wonder why the Apple Silicon transition seemed so much smoother in comparison.
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wmf ◴[] No.45367625{3}[source]
For one thing Apple dropped 32-bit before they transitioned to ARM while Windows compatibility goes back 30 years.
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1. rock_artist ◴[] No.45372476{4}[source]
Actually, the Macho file format was multiarch by design (On Windows we're still stuck with Program Files (x86))..

Anyway, before dropping 32bit, they've dropped PowerPC.

Another consideration, Apple is the king of dylib, you're usually dynamically linking to the OS frameworks/libs. so they can actually plan their glue smarter so the frameworks would still work in native arch. (that was really important with PPC->Intel where you also had big endian...)

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2. winocm ◴[] No.45377000[source]
You also get "Program Files (ARM)" (including a complementary "SysArm32") on older arm64 systems too.