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Lio ◴[] No.45361891[source]
> Airlines want to remove the requirement to provide automatic refunds when flights are cancelled or significantly altered.

This is wild. Are they really asking to be able to take money for a flight, then cacel it and keep the money? That's crazy.

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cosmicgadget ◴[] No.45362710[source]
I don't think that is going to happen. Before this new-ish regulation, the airline had discretion over how to rebook you or compensate you. Now if the delay is over 3h (iirc) they have to refund you.

I think even an arbitration court would have them reimburse you if they simply canceled a flight and kept your money.

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itopaloglu83 ◴[] No.45364934[source]
And what percentage of people will take them to court just to get them to refund their ticket?

Airlines have full time lawyers with nothing to do but push paper around.

Why are we making it harder for the consumer to resolve an issue when the flight is clearly cancelled?

They just want to force you into weird store-credit style refunds so that you cannot go to a competitor or choose not to travel.

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cosmicgadget ◴[] No.45365266[source]
> And what percentage of people will take them to court just to get them to refund their ticket?

If there is any upside to mandatory binding final arbitration, it's that proceedings are cheaper and quicker. It might be that the arbitrators decide to universally rule in favor of the airlines amidst unambiguous evidence that the airlines took money and canceled the service, but seems unlikely.

It's also a huge risk on the part of the airlines to decide that their official policy is to stiff customers and hope it works out in arbitration.

> Why are we making it harder for the consumer to resolve an issue when the flight is clearly cancelled?

Because we elected the guy who said he would, going so far as to ensure he had a majority in both houses of Congress.

> They just want to force you into weird store-credit style refunds so that you cannot go to a competitor or choose not to travel.

Lol yes that is exactly it. I wouldn't have written that stuff above if I knew you were going to correct yourself.

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1. itopaloglu83 ◴[] No.45371148[source]
There are so many things to know, the world moves fast, so everything keeps changing constantly. It’s impossible for people to keep up and instead of providing a service, some airlines are trying to benefit from it knowing that folks will not claim their refunds or fee meals etc.

I wish every flight cancellation and delay emails had FAQ style “what are my choices” section where you can see your right clearly.